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Obama Cuts Hazard Pay for Soldiers Serving in Harm’s Way
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:39 am
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:39 am
Why are defense cuts made at the soldier's expense? I would think that any place that you have to inhabit while walking around with a rifle in your hands would be considered hazardous.
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Barack Obama cut pay for military men and women serving in harm’s way starting this month.
The Army Times reported:
Starting this month, some troops will begin receiving less Imminent Danger Pay when a new policy takes effect that will prorate the standard $225 monthly IDP stipend.
Under the new policy, troops will be paid only for the actual days they spend in the danger pay location, defense officials said Thursday.
Under the previous policy, troops who spent any portion of the month in a danger pay location received danger pay for the entire month.
The proration amounts to $7.50 per day. So, for example, if a service member spends only 7 days of the month in Afghanistan, he or she will have only $52.50 in Imminent Danger Pay added to their paycheck.
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:43 am to Homesick Tiger
Since these places aren't hazardous, I'm sure Barry wouldn't mind sending Moochelle, Sascha and Malia to these places (unescorted) for Moochelle's next vacation with her 100+ entourage.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:44 am to Homesick Tiger
Another ploy by Obama to lower the morale of our soldiers.
Never listen to what the man says about a situation. Wait and watch what he does. Seldom are the two the same.
Never listen to what the man says about a situation. Wait and watch what he does. Seldom are the two the same.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:46 am to dante
The President is merely showing fiscal restraint. After all, we have to pay for all those future young Democrats flooding across our borders somehow.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 8:47 am
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:52 am to antibarner
You do it for the same reason corporations always lay off employees when times are bad - its easy and cost effective. I don't have a problem with it considering that combat missions are actually winding down.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:57 am to Big12fan
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its easy and cost effective.
We're talking about the safety of human lives here, not about whether corporate profits will be higher this year than last. Like I said, if I'm walking around with a loaded weapon at the ready then I would consider myself in a dangerous environment.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:59 am to Big12fan
quote:really? If their combat missions are winding down then the hazard pay will wind down also. No reason to cut their pay while they are deployed.
You do it for the same reason corporations always lay off employees when times are bad - its easy and cost effective. I don't have a problem with it considering that combat missions are actually winding down.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:00 am to Homesick Tiger
You mean like the troops setting on the Kuwait Iraq border right now? They lost their IDP on 1June.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:00 am to Homesick Tiger
Next, they'll redefine what "Imminent Danger" means, and prorate the pay to only those minutes/hours spent facing the enemy.
It really is torch and pitchfork time.
It really is torch and pitchfork time.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:03 am to Homesick Tiger
Well the upshot is that with Obama, (unlike our last president) far less soldiers will be in harms way.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:04 am to mtntiger
I tried to read the entire article, but the page is no longer available.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:05 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
some troops will begin receiving less Imminent Danger Pay when a new policy takes effect that will prorate the standard $225 monthly IDP stipend.
Under the new policy, troops will be paid only for the actual days they spend in the danger pay location
I don't know about how they will define the danger pay location- perhaps that part of this adjustment will be fricked up.
But in principle, I agree with this move. I've seen the get your pay for a whole month for just setting foot in a hazard area thing abused.
I don't think this issue is a big part of our defense overspending, and I detest this administration.
But I think that this adjustment makes sense.
ETA: I also think that this adjustment should apply to income subject to tax, which doesn't apply for months spent in some locations like "combat zones". It should be by days spent, and which locations meet these criteria should be reviewed. This I've seen abused too, and it's more costly of an abuse than the other stuff in dollar terms.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 9:10 am
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:06 am to TT9
Law of diminishing returns for Obama voters. More troops have died under his command.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:09 am to TT9
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Well the upshot is that with Obama, (unlike our last president) far less soldiers will be in harms way.
Yet more have died under his watch.
Just how fricking stupid are you, really?
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:10 am to Homesick Tiger
"For just $7.50 a day...."
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:10 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Link?
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:12 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Just how fricking stupid are you, really?
Pick a level and double it
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:16 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:Look. I really........I mean REALLLLLY dislike me some Obama.
Obama Cuts Hazard Pay for Soldiers Serving in Harm’s Way
But, the cuts are for those that factually have NOT been in harms way for quite some time. The folks in Kuwait receiving this pay for the last several years were in no more danger than a Soldier in Korea or Germany. It was absurd.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:17 am to Jbird
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More troops have died under his command.
True for Afghanistan - not true for both Iraq & Afghanistan by a huge margin.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:17 am to Homesick Tiger
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Under the new policy, troops will be paid only for the actual days they spend in the danger pay location, defense officials said Thursday.
Under the previous policy, troops who spent any portion of the month in a danger pay location received danger pay for the entire month.
Ok, call me crazy, but this makes sense
Sounds like a smart business move. A private company would do the same and we always bitch that the govt should be run more cost effective.
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