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Athletes with Shattered Confidence

Posted on 6/14/14 at 1:40 am
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 1:40 am
As a neutral fan, is there anything more depressing to watch than an athlete that has lost all confidence in himself? Watching Iker Casillas today and Mario Chalmers the past couple games got me thinking about this. Rick Ankiel as a pitcher, Chuck Knoblauch, Roy Hibbert early in the playoffs and countless others also come to mind.

When an athlete loses confidence, is there a road back? Should coaches/managers let him play through it or is it best to leave him on the bench for a while so he doesn't kill the team? What dictates this decision? The peak of his past performances? His salary? The quality of the available alternatives?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 2:10 am to
The Yips. Chuckie Knoblauch was brutal to watch, even as an opposing fan.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 2:28 am to
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The Yips. Chuckie Knoblauch was brutal to watch, even as an opposing fan.


Nah, I LOVED it! frick the Yankees!
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25406 posts
Posted on 6/14/14 at 2:44 am to
Jared saltellamachia (sp) couldn't even throw the ball back to the pitcher
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 6:36 am to
Once his teammates lose confidence in him its tough to stick with a guy. At that point you put the team first and go with an alternative.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:18 am to
Ian Baker Finch had a pretty solid collapse.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:20 am to
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Ian Baker Finch had a pretty solid collapse.



David Duval too.
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
NC
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:25 am to
Jason Bay completely lost the ability to hit when he went to New York.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:25 am to
I remember when Steve Sax couldn't make the throw from second to first.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:27 am to
David duval
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:30 am to
Those issues have nothing to do with confidence. It's a mental problem. The "yips".

It's not a confidence issue. It's their brain making them physically incapable of doing what they want to do... even something they've done a million times.

Like Charles Barkley with his golf swing. He's not doing it on purpose. His brain goes haywire right before he hits the ball.

Now, you can lose confidence in yourself because of it... but confidence is not the reason for the yips.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:31 am to
i'm glad i was a child watching nick anderson destroy his career when he lost those finals against the rockets
Posted by Birdie King
Houston, TX
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:31 am to
Garrett Hartley

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421245 posts
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Those issues have nothing to do with confidence. It's a mental problem. The "yips".

It's not a confidence issue. It's their brain making them physically incapable of doing what they want to do.

because they lose confidence and start overthinking things, mainly with a negative slant
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:34 am to
You don't have to lose confidence to overthink things.

Some baseball players can throw perfectly fine anywhere they want except from one spot to another...

A player might be able to throw perfectly fine from second to third, but can't throw the ball from third to second.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 8:35 am
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:36 am to
Lebron
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421245 posts
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:40 am to
quote:

You don't have to lose confidence to overthink things.

when you think negatively, you do. confidence is the lack of negative thinking about yourself/performance

quote:

Some baseball players can throw perfectly fine anywhere they want except from one spot to another...

because the "brain rush" you described earlier occurs, basically due to a rush of negativity injecting itself into the brain

that's why they call it "getting in your head". once you start thinking about the specific variable you're having difficulty with, you lose confidence in that one area, and then once it's "in your head", it will recur every time that same set of behaviors is presented

confidence, as a mental state, is the lack of this doubt/worry, which prevents it from "getting in your head"
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:55 am to
Thought this thread was going to be about Fernando Torres
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:58 am to
Mark Wohlers was never the same after Jim Leyritz
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:31 am to
David Carr
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