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FDA looking out for your best interest again

Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57832 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:26 pm
No more cheese boards




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The Federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced Friday that it will not allow cheese makers use wooden boards to age their cheese - a ruling that would effectively wipe out artisanal cheeses. The FDA's ruling came to light after several cheese makers in New York were cited - despite state laws that allow the use of wood boards.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10805 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:28 pm to
We would all die without the EPA and the FDA. I learned this today on polibored
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72004 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:30 pm to
These people are simply retarded.

There is no debating that.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57832 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:33 pm to
I'm pretty sure that all of cheese making involves bacteria.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:40 pm to
Wow there are some really stupid fricks over at the FDA.

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"Wood has been used in cheese making in Europe for thousands of years, from day one of cheese," Roelli said, calling it the "pillar" of his "niche business. If [the ban] goes through, it would severely hamper what we are doing at this point. 85% of the product I manufacture is made to be aged on wood. We don't have a plan B. We would have to start from square one again and reinvent our business."


Sorry bro! Nanny state knows better than reality.

quote:

So how does the FDA have the authority to do this? The FDA is citing the Food Safety Modernization Act (FMSA) signed into law by President Obama on January 4, 2011. FMSA shifts focus "from responding to contamination to preventing it," the Cheese Underground reports.


shocker!! frick this entire administration and its continually incompetent bureaucratic rulings. guess if you don't work for the government these fricks don't care if they run you out of business.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:43 pm to
even HuffPo is agast LINK

also looks like this caused such a stir the FDA is now backing down from their fiat

Forbes

quote:

The FDA is backing away (at least temporarily) from a policy statement that declared cheese makers would no longer be able to age their cheese on wooden boards. The statement caused outrage in the artisan cheese community and consumers quickly came to the aid of the industry signing onto a petition and expressing their outrage through social media. The American Cheese Society released a position statement, and it was clear that the industry was prepared to fight back if the FDA did not change its position.

Today, the FDA claimed that it in fact had not issued a new policy, they stated:

“The FDA does not have a new policy banning the use of wooden shelves in cheese-making, nor is there any FSMA requirement in effect that addresses this issue. Moreover, the FDA has not taken any enforcement action based solely on the use of wooden shelves.

In the interest of public health, the FDA’s current regulations state that utensils and other surfaces that contact food must be “adequately cleanable” and properly maintained. Historically, the FDA has expressed concern about whether wood meets this requirement and has noted these concerns in inspectional findings. FDA is always open to evidence that shows that wood can be safely used for specific purposes, such as aging cheese.

The FDA will engage with the artisanal cheese-making community to determine whether certain types of cheeses can safely be made by aging them on wooden shelving.”
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:46 pm to
Forbes article with the FDA saying they didn't issue the policy with a PDF clearly showing they did.

LINK /
quote:

Today, the FDA claimed that it in fact had not issued a new policy, they stated:


“The FDA does not have a new policy banning the use of wooden shelves in cheese-making, nor is there any FSMA requirement in effect that addresses this issue. Moreover, the FDA has not taken any enforcement action based solely on the use of wooden shelves.

In the interest of public health, the FDA’s current regulations state that utensils and other surfaces that contact food must be “adequately cleanable” and properly maintained. Historically, the FDA has expressed concern about whether wood meets this requirement and has noted these concerns in inspectional findings. FDA is always open to evidence that shows that wood can be safely used for specific purposes, such as aging cheese.

The FDA will engage with the artisanal cheese-making community to determine whether certain types of cheeses can safely be made by aging them on wooden shelving.”


and here is the pdf policy note directly in conflict with the statement:

quote:

“The use of wooden shelves, rough or otherwise, for cheese ripening does not conform to cGMP requirements, which require that “all plant equipment and utensils shall be so designed and of such material and workmanship as to be adequately cleanable, and shall be properly maintained.” 21 CFR 110.40(a). Wooden shelves or boards cannot be adequately cleaned and sanitized. The porous structure of wood enables it to absorb and retain bacteria, therefore bacteria generally colonize not only the surface but also the inside layers of wood. The shelves or boards used for aging make direct contact with finished products; hence they could be a potential source of pathogenic microorganisms in the finished products.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

and here is the pdf policy note directly in conflict with the statement:

This administration is populated by officials that seem entirely incapable of being truthful about ANYfrickINGTHING!!

This shite is small potatoes and yet, rather than just repeal the stupidity, they have to go full retard and claim they never invoked the stupidity in the first place.

Good fricking lord, what is wrong wit these people?
Posted by tracytiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2009
3631 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

The FDA will engage with the artisanal cheese-making community to determine whether certain types of cheeses can safely be made by aging them on wooden shelving.”


That's a nice way to put it FDA.

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:08 pm to
frick that, frick Them
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35360 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

shocker!! frick this entire administration and its continually incompetent bureaucratic rulings. guess if you don't work for the government these fricks don't care if they run you out of business.
The FSMA was passed 215 to 144 in the House and by a unanimous voice vote in the Senate. LINK

There were a lot of people outside of the admin in favor of this. But don't let this cloud your hate.

Finally, everything the FDA said is true and obviously would require an exemption in the act to allow the artisan cheese industry to use the wooden boards.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:24 pm to
Can I ask how many people have died or at least gotten deathly ill from cheese made on wood boards???


What is their factual basis for this policy?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64156 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:29 pm to
BooHoo again.
When your Prez you get blamed for EVERYTHING in the federal govt.
Its the way it is but too bad your partisan memory won't allow you to see that it comes with their job.
Posted by augrad00
Member since Nov 2010
1354 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:32 pm to
We are a nation of whiners. Y'all find anything to whine about. Whining about cheese making regulations.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98448 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:33 pm to
frick! I so hate this government sometimes.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36748 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:33 pm to
Good for the fda gotta focus on the important things. Eventually they'll get around to the shoddy only partially able to be published clinical trials that happen to rush drugs through but we have to handle these major problems with the system first
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

FMSA shifts focus "from responding to contamination to preventing it," the Cheese Underground reports.



Thank you government for solving problems that don't exist!
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57832 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Finally, everything the FDA said is true and obviously would require an exemption in the act to allow the artisan cheese industry to use the wooden boards.




Why would the FDA need to have an exemption for the cheese industry when in the above written PDF, they deny any such restrictions?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57832 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

We are a nation of whiners. Y'all find anything to whine about. Whining about cheese making regulations.



Did your mom drop you on your head as a baby or have you always been brain dead? There would be no reason to whine about thousand year old cheese making processes unless the nanny state where getting into their business.
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