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re: Stop beating up on Coach Paul Mainieri

Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20173 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:30 pm to
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With our facilities, athletes, and "quality coaching," you should be ashamed of this.


No I'm not ashamed of anything like that.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:30 pm to
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I'm not ashamed of these players or the team. I'm not a huge fan of PM and at times a really disagree, but I know he and his staff try to do their best to win.


This x 1,000.

I would like to know what you done athletically in your entire life while you are saying you are ashamed of our program.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 1:31 pm
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:33 pm to
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would you still be ashamed at that point?


When we have as many CWS wins as Kent State this decade, I will no longer be ashamed.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:35 pm to
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I think there is (and I think you realize it to) a difference between a team saying on February 1st, "frick yeah, we EXPECT to go Omaha this year. This is our year!" and fans saying after the fact, "Well we have only been to Omaha 3 times in the last 10 years, we are clearly not meeting expectations."
I do see the difference, but I don't think fans shouldn't have those expectations. I believe the original argument was 4-6 out of 10. I don't think that's so unreasonable for an LSU fanbase to expect.
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But when they don't get there I don't think they are going to feel like they failed.
They do for a while. Every year/team has successes and failures. I know former players who are still haunted by not WINNING in omaha much less just getting there.
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I just don't think this was an Omaha caliber team.
I agree. The writing was on the wall for most of the season. The 10 game winning streak late was just that, only a streak.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:37 pm to
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lsutigers1992

You are truly pathetic.

I'm ashamed that we have fans like you.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:37 pm to
Maybe "ashamed" is an extreme word. But again, no LSU fan should be satisfied with zero CWS victories since winning the the whole thing in 2009 for 5 years and counting.
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:57 pm to
Oh dude please spare me. Is it the facilities that you don't understand, The Million dollar contract, or the expectations?

In my case its the piss poor coaching, Bases loaded twice before you pull the pitcher. Please man. For the love of god.

Houston Regional, First inning, Peg first batter then throw nine straight balls and bases are loaded WITH NO OUTS. then you get them some relief.

HE IS HORRIBLE!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64468 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:58 pm to
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HE IS HORRIBLE!

he made a terrible decision. it happens. i'm sure he regrets it as much anyone. however, to say he's horrible, is ignorant hyperbolic bullshite
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 1:59 pm
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:01 pm to
He tried to get everyones mind off his choke job vs houston by pumping up this recruiting class. That looks like it might blow up in his face as well
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:02 pm to
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I believe the original argument was 4-6 out of 10. I don't think that's so unreasonable for an LSU fanbase to expect.

Ok, I guess let me clarify my thought process. I don't have a problem with what you said. I expect that LSU will make it Omaha 4-6 times every rolling 10 year period. I certainly think that's reasonable. But I also won't use that expectation to bash the program or say the coach should be run out of town when they make it to Omaha 3 times out of the last 10 years. Most of the posters on here are using that guidance to bash the hell out of our program (they do the same thing with football) and I just don't believe in doing that.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64468 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:04 pm to
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That looks like it might blow up in his face as well

even if Mac ends up signing, which still very well may not happen, we aren't going to lose anyone else. losing 2 recruits and only 2 players on the current roster is very good news, as it's very rare to be able to keep that many recruits
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Oh dude please spare me. Is it the facilities that you don't understand, The Million dollar contract, or the expectations? In my case its the piss poor coaching, Bases loaded twice before you pull the pitcher. Please man. For the love of god. Houston Regional, First inning, Peg first batter then throw nine straight balls and bases are loaded WITH NO OUTS. then you get them some relief. HE IS HORRIBLE!


This is the kind of post that just makes me laugh.

1. It only takes 8 straight balls to walk 2 hitters, not 9.

2. Would you like the coach to yank the STARTING pitcher before he has thrown 11 pitches? It takes that long for a reliever to even warm up. He got him out of there as fast as humanly possible.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:06 pm to
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even if Mac ends up signing, which still very well may not happen, we aren't going to lose anyone else. losing 2 recruits and only 2 players on the current roster is very good news, as it's very rare to be able to keep that many recruits


Latz and Papierski are not guarantees to make it to campus. Latz has already been offered over a million.
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:13 pm to
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With so much parity, we need to cherish the season, the SEC championships and regional and super re


so what you are saying is that regardless of our top 5 recruiting classes almost every year, that schools with hardly any recruiting budget can pick up non rated players who can be coached up, hit a few HRs every now and then to keep the fans off their cell phones, and actually into the games, and kick our arse. kind of like LOL down the interstate. now i understand.
Posted by LSU=Champions
BAWxtard | Tier 1
Member since Apr 2004
22257 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:23 pm to
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If you went up to ANY LSU FAN the day after the 2009 national championship and told them that LSU would not win another CWS game for at least 5 years and only make one CWS, what would his reaction be?


Fire the hitting coach.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20173 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:23 pm to
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2. Would you like the coach to yank the STARTING pitcher before he has thrown 11 pitches? It takes that long for a reliever to even warm up. He got him out of there as fast as humanly possible.


To be honest, PM sent Bugg down to the pen to warm up after he walked his first batter of the inning which is quicker than he normally does. You're not going to send someone to the pen when he hits the first guy of the game on a 0-2 count.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77344 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:25 pm to
I have no problem with the timing of bringing bugg in
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:26 pm to
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But I also won't use that expectation to bash the program or say the coach should be run out of town when they make it to Omaha 3 times out of the last 10 years. Most of the posters on here are using that guidance to bash the hell out of our program (they do the same thing with football) and I just don't believe in doing that.
Fair enough. I don't agree with using blinders either. Some people use his one championship as a "get out of jail free" card.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:28 pm to
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1. It only takes 8 straight balls to walk 2 hitters, not 9.


This is a true statement except he did throw 9 straight balls. He was yanked before he walked in a run. Count was 1-0 on third batter after the one he hit when he was pulled


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It takes that long for a reliever to even warm up


Auggie disagrees, during the post season Auggie will have his staff warming up after the third inning. Someone is always ready to go
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:30 pm to
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I don't agree with using blinders either. Some people use his one championship as a "get out of jail free" card.

Who (besides Russian) blindly praises everything PM has done? I think just about everyone agrees that he and Dunn screwed up and are not immune to criticism by any means. People defending him are just trying to be rational and look at the big picture within our program and the big picture nationally.
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