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re: Stop beating up on Coach Paul Mainieri
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:13 pm to PurpleAndGold86
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:13 pm to PurpleAndGold86
quote:I agree with this, but we didn't have a choice. We had 12 healthy pitchers.
ETA: Before I get told that I want to "gag on PM's dick", the decisions he made with the pitching by leaving in McCune through the 8th and by bringing in Domangue on Monday were fricking retarded. Domangue shouldn't have been on the roster.
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:13 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:
He needs to go 3-5 times in the next 5 years to do that in the 2010s
So now we're just measuring it by decades? I'm trying to keep up here.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:14 pm to lsu711
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If parity is the status quo in college baseball and there isn't anything Mainieri can do to overcome that, why does he deserve the money they pay him?
doesn't the women's basketball coach make more than him? where's the contribution there? at least baseball makes a little money
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:15 pm to 777Tiger
Omg this thread.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:15 pm to ell_13
quote:
It's not as crazy as you think.
That's a nice motivational quote. But I still realize that a lot has to happen for a team to make it to Omaha. You played in college. You understand that a team's bats can go quiet for a weekend very easily. Facing a good pitcher can put a team in a funk for a couple of games. For a team to make it to Omaha, they obviously have to be very talented, but they also have to have some good fortune as well. UH had good pitching. We just didn't hit enough to win.
And I can also see that quote referring to a team's preseason goals. Yes, it should be every team's goal to reach Omaha before the season starts.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:17 pm to LSU=Champions
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Omg this thread.
I know, sometimes I wonder why I even look at this board.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:17 pm to lsu2006
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Am I allowed to be disappointed with Mainieri and Dunn's handling of the pitching Sunday and Monday but still think they're both great coaches and still think our program is in great shape? Just let me know. Thanks.
Couldn't have said it any better.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:17 pm to ell_13
quote:
I agree with this, but we didn't have a choice. We had 12 healthy pitchers.
And not making an excuse for anything, but obviously injuries play a heavy role in making it to Omaha or not. This falls in that good fortune category. What if LSU had those pitchers that were hurt before the season started? How far could they have gone then? They certainly would have been in better shape on Monday night than throwing a kid out there that couldn't even record an out because he was too amped up after guaranteeing a win.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:19 pm to TigerCub
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So now we're just measuring it by decades? I'm trying to keep up here.
Is what I said accurate? 1 CWS in the last 5 years puts on same the level with Kent State.
Tell me I'm lying. Are these our expectations after winning the 2009 NC?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:20 pm to 777Tiger
quote:
I know, sometimes I wonder why I even look at this board.
Absolutely.
:homergif:
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:21 pm to PurpleAndGold86
quote:I guess my point was that the team and coaches don't just see it as a goal. I think they really do see Omaha as the expectation. Every year. They preach it from day one. It's never lofty. It's never out of reach.
And I can also see that quote referring to a team's preseason goals. Yes, it should be every team's goal to reach Omaha before the season starts.
As fans, sure, maybe we can be more realistic in those expectations. But why? Skip knew that it takes everyone who is a part of a program to create those championships. Everyone had to want it. To expect it. To do the things necessary to get it. Fans included.
Who cares if it is unrealistic of us. But that's what makes LSU baseball LSU baseball. frick being realistic. We expect it every year. And that's a good thing.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:22 pm to lsutigers1992
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1 CWS in the last 5 years puts on same the level with Kent State
Well this is just stupid. It was worth the debate until you said this.
Go back 7 years and we have been 3 times. Has Kent State done that? You can skew these numbers however you want. It's stupid. In reality, we are still one of the more competitive baseball schools in the country on a year to year basis and everyone knows that. Does that mean we should expect to go to Omaha every year. No.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:26 pm to PurpleAndGold86
We have been to one CWS this decade.
Kent State has been to one CWS this decade.
Stony Brook has been to one CWS this decade.
Again, tell me where I am wrong.
With our facilities, athletes, and "quality coaching," you should be ashamed of this.
If you went up to ANY LSU FAN the day after the 2009 national championship and told them that LSU would not win another CWS game for at least 5 years and only make one CWS, what would his reaction be?
Kent State has been to one CWS this decade.
Stony Brook has been to one CWS this decade.
Again, tell me where I am wrong.
With our facilities, athletes, and "quality coaching," you should be ashamed of this.
If you went up to ANY LSU FAN the day after the 2009 national championship and told them that LSU would not win another CWS game for at least 5 years and only make one CWS, what would his reaction be?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:26 pm to lsutigers1992
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1 CWS in the last 5 years puts on same the level with Kent State.
Lol.
Wow.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:28 pm to ell_13
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ell_13
I think there is (and I think you realize it to) a difference between a team saying on February 1st, "frick yeah, we EXPECT to go Omaha this year. This is our year!" and fans saying after the fact, "Well we have only been to Omaha 3 times in the last 10 years, we are clearly not meeting expectations."
Yes, everyone in that locker room should expect to go to Omaha and make that their goal through fall practice, spring practice and train with that goal/expectation in mind the entire season. But when they don't get there I don't think they are going to feel like they failed. They just went into the season with the right competitive mind set that they should have, but that doesn't mean anything less than Omaha is a bust of a season.
I just don't think this was an Omaha caliber team. I am disappointed as frick that we lost, but I can also look at this season after the fact and they say that I think they accomplished more than I would have thought they would accomplish given their play thru the first 2/3 of the season.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:28 pm to ell_13
quote:we had plenty of healthy arms to bring in instead of a guy that was the worst option. you exhaust your best arms to get out of jams when needed and use Domangue as the last option before position players. Paul panicked and used Domangue instead of worrying about getting out of the jam.
We had 12 healthy pitchers.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:28 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:Lost you there.
With our facilities, athletes, and "quality coaching," you should be ashamed of this.
I'm not ashamed of these players or the team. I'm not a huge fan of PM and at times a really disagree, but I know he and his staff try to do their best to win.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:29 pm to heartbreakTiger
I wasn't excusing using Domangue; I was excusing his presence on the roster.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:29 pm to lsutigers1992
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We have been to one CWS this decade. Kent State has been to one CWS this decade. Stony Brook has been to one CWS this decade.
What is your point? Is a decade 5 years or is it 10? What if we go to Omaha each of the next 5 years? What if we go to Omaha 3 out of the next 5 years? We would then be in your category of 4-6 every decade...would you still be ashamed at that point?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:30 pm to ell_13
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I'm not ashamed of these players or the team. I'm not a huge fan of PM and at times a really disagree, but I know he and his staff try to do their best to win.
Hey now
There is no room for being reasonable on the rant
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