Democratic party played by Obama?

He passed healthcare reform without single payer or even a public option that the left wanted, we're still in Afghanistan, Guantanamo is still open, he's dragged his feet on climate change until now, and he's deported over 2 million illegal immigrants. He's not far left unless you're observing from the far right.

Obama has drifted further to the left than others.

That being said, it is a specific left. It is his left and only his left. His left has a strong federal government that actually prefers the NSA and other spying techniques so he can keep us safe from ourselves.

He also, as has been spouted on this board till the cows come home, is a big advocate for taxation and government welfare type programs. People often refer to this as income redistribution.

I could continue about other things he believes, but at the end of the day, he believes the ends justify the means. And he is shortsighted.

That all being said, I think the republicans have drifted further over to the right than before as well. Hell, we have political candidates saying that the earth could be 6k years old and that ID should be taught in the school. We have moronic candidates who say that women get pregnant when raped because they want to get pregnant.

I think both sides have drifted further apart, perhaps because the moderates of each party often do not get involved in the primaries and thus you have the really political people getting involved driving the candidates further and further from the middle.

True, and he hasn't used the military to disarm the South...yet.

I don't think the Democratic Party got played but the Independents and anti-Romney Republicans that voted for Obama sure did. Here was a new face, which happened to be black, of politics that spoke a good game and promised with conviction there was a new vision of hope and change.

IMO, he has failed miserably as a whole for the nation but has been a Godsend for those with social agendas which is not always good for the nation as a whole.

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His left has a strong federal government that actually prefers the NSA and other spying techniques so he can keep us safe from ourselves

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Safe from ourselves? Meaning that the American people aren't to be trusted and an all seeing government must monitor and control their actions and thoughts?

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He also, as has been spouted on this board till the cows come home, is a big advocate for taxation and government welfare type programs. People often refer to this as income redistribution.

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Before it can be re distributed, it must be confiscated even if through illegal means.

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And he is shortsighted.

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You are being way too kind.

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That all being said, I think the republicans have drifted further over to the right than before as well. Hell, we have political candidates saying that the earth could be 6k years old and that ID should be taught in the school. We have moronic candidates who say that women get pregnant when raped because they want to get pregnant.

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All of whom command a very tiny slice of the Republican constituency but are useful to the left as a scare tactic.

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I think both sides have drifted further apart, perhaps because the moderates of each party often do not get involved in the primaries and thus you have the really political people getting involved driving the candidates further and further from the middle.

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Can't disagree with that.

Obama is black Jesus


You can't say anything negative about him or you're a racist

You are delusional. W added Medicare prescription benefits.

Not thinking evolution is false doesn't make him super liberal. He is more centrist than you want to admit.

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I don't know any of these people

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Sure you do. They were the people that stayed home in disgust of Romney and didn't vote. A no vote for Romney was a vote for Obama.

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Hillary is just as left as Obama and much more competent.

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How so? Seriously what has she done except being the left's darling?
She totally screwed the pooch with her national health care effort.
She carpetbagged a Senate Seat, where her legislative record, while better them Obama's, isn't very outstanding.
She parlayed the "stand by your man" thing into initially a run for the Democrat nomination, then into the SOS job.
Where are her laurels in that? Middle East? China? Russia? N.Korea?
Her resume is pretty bland, except of course for her being the smartest woman in the world and we love her because she is a woman and electing her would be historic, blah blah blah.