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Changes to LHSAA rules 2014-15

Posted on 6/5/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 3:02 pm
Just a few notes for those who are interested:

- Reclassification will be in February, not November.
- Private schools will play in the dome a week before the Publics.
- Privates can play up in division for football (Evangel, Curtis etc can play Rummel, Catholic)
- Private brackets will have 16 teams vs 32 for publics

Of note, Jindal has 6 more days to veto the bill to make for third party arbitration in eligibility cases.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 3:29 pm to
they need to address the unfairness in having 50+ teams in the upper nonselect classes and 27 in 1A and 39 in 2A...
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 3:36 pm to
That's a public problem now. Doesn't look like we are going back to old system. I bet all sports will be split in 2 years.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

- Reclassification will be in February, not November.

So, they are giving teams 9 more months or 3 less months of knowing what class they will be in?

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- Private schools will play in the dome a week before the Publics.

Sounds like a good idea.

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- Privates can play up in division for football (Evangel, Curtis etc can play Rummel, Catholic)

Another good idea. But I'm surprised the big private schools let that happen.

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- Private brackets will have 16 teams vs 32 for publics

It was a bit ridiculous where there were some private school classifications where almost everybody got into the playoffs (or at least it seemed that way).
Posted by Kracka
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:29 pm to
I think Jindal will veto that bill. But if he doesn't I am curious to see what happens. I would love to see the LHSAA fold simply because it would be interesting to see what the fallout is.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:37 pm to
Well now we will see if the catholic league wants to play the small Christian privates. Supposedly Curtis was scared to play 5a football. I guess this proves JT really stayed 4a for the other sports.
Posted by Reubaltaich
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

Of note, Jindal has 6 more days to veto the bill to make for third party arbitration in eligibility cases.



INTENTIONAL law passed to be a 'poison pill' for the LHSAA by some disgruntled south Louisiana legislators to get back at the LHSAA for the separate private/public playoff system in feetball.

I hope Jindal will veto this but time is running out

I do think that the LHSAA is headed for a complete private/public split.
The south Louisiana private schools will be OK, its the northern private schools that are gonna get hit hard by a split.

In NELA, there are only a handful of privates that participate in football, Ouachita Chrisian, St Fredericks, Cedar Creek.

In N'west Louisiana, the numbers are just a bad, Evangel, Calvary Baptist, and maybe two or three other schools.

BTW, if there is a public/private split. I wonder if the south Louisiana privates are going to want John Curtis to join them? Same way with the northern schools, will the privates want Evangel & Calvary Baptist in their league?
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 7:08 pm to
All you have to do is talk to someone who was in original play in class discussions in 03 and 04

To see who as scard of playing whom.....

Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 7:25 pm to
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Curtis was scared to play 5A football


Considering one private school not named Evangel won 5A ever, I don't see how this proves anything.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:03 pm to
You are obviously new to this convo.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:39 pm to
JJ. Back then they were talking about 5a for football only

The play in class wheels got rolling immediately
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:42 pm to
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Reubaltaich


The 4 schools you mentioned are very aware of the possibilities and have contingency plans in place.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:39 pm to
I can tell you that the plan being talked about last year would have created an association open to ANY school private or public.

I really hope Jindal doesn't veto this bill. It's beyond time we hold this dysfunction public entity accountable.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:08 am to
They can do whatever as long as the lhsaa isn't forced to break its own rules with arbitration... Its not like they are discriminating. Maybe they need some oversight, but forcing to allow an overage kid to play isnt the answer
Posted by Reubaltaich
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 6:05 am to
quote:

The 4 schools you mentioned are very aware of the possibilities and have contingency plans in place.



Just curious, what are those contingency plans?


Also, to Senterious.
The LHSAA age rules are plain as day and night. If a student athelete turns 19 years old on/or after Sept 1, then he/she is no longer eligible to play for that calender year in high school sports.

If Jindal signs this bill, EVERY eligibilty ruling by the LHSAA can be taken up by a third party arbitrator. This has the potential to cost thousands of $$$ per case. This could bankrupt the LHSAA.

This is what the legislatures had in mind when they passed this bill into law, it was to get back at the LHSAA for the private/public football playoff system.

Stupid and classeless.
Posted by Reubaltaich
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 6:24 am to
quote:

They can do whatever as long as the lhsaa isn't forced to break its own rules with arbitration... Its not like they are discriminating. Maybe they need some oversight, but forcing to allow an overage kid to play isnt the answer



So my question is, if this is signed into law, what will be the age limit of a student athelete? 20? 21? 25? 30? You see where this is leading?

BTW, if Jindal signs this into law, it will be quickly appealed and most likely will be struck down by the courts.

The Louisiana Supreme court has already ruled on something similar to this about the LA legislature cannot force the LHSAA to do something like this.

Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 7:39 am to
Reubaltich you are wrong the athlete cannot turn 19 on or before sept 1
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 7:41 am to
Ghost I think many selects felt it would be awful hypocritical of them if they didn't include JC and ECA...

I know that's how my sons school felt.


Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 8:17 am to
quote:

The Louisiana Supreme court has already ruled on something similar to this about the LA legislature cannot force the LHSAA to do something like this.


Wrong
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 8:21 am to
quote:

So my question is, if this is signed into law, what will be the age limit of a student athelete? 20? 21? 25? 30? You see where this is leading?


It's not limited to age eligibility. The bill would allow schools and athletes to appeal LHSAA's arbitrary decisions to third party arbitration instead of taking it to the courts.

It will save money and provide some oversight to a dysfunctional public entity.
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