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spinoff - getting rid of small bream?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:26 am
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:26 am
There's a small pond down the road from me that the landowner has no interest in (its the only reason every inch of the property isn't replanted pine). Got permission to fish it, but obviously I'm not gonna sink much money into it.
The problem is that it's completely overrun with 1-3" bream and goggle eye. In three weeks of bass fishing not even a yearling has been caught or seen in the shallow part. I also assume there aren't any cats. Pond used to hold bass and keeper bream, but dried up about 10 years ago, and to my knowledge hasn't really been fished since. It's about a half acre, maybe 7ft deep in the middle, and a ballpark average of 4ft. No matter where you throw, a cricket doesn't last 30 seconds. There are thousands of small bream but nothing over 4". One decent sized goggle eye was caught this weekend.
So my question is, without shelling out coin on someone else's property, what's the best way to get the bream numbers down? The plan is a combination of cast net, throwing caught bass in, and maybe a flathead or two. Anything I'm missing?
The problem is that it's completely overrun with 1-3" bream and goggle eye. In three weeks of bass fishing not even a yearling has been caught or seen in the shallow part. I also assume there aren't any cats. Pond used to hold bass and keeper bream, but dried up about 10 years ago, and to my knowledge hasn't really been fished since. It's about a half acre, maybe 7ft deep in the middle, and a ballpark average of 4ft. No matter where you throw, a cricket doesn't last 30 seconds. There are thousands of small bream but nothing over 4". One decent sized goggle eye was caught this weekend.
So my question is, without shelling out coin on someone else's property, what's the best way to get the bream numbers down? The plan is a combination of cast net, throwing caught bass in, and maybe a flathead or two. Anything I'm missing?
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 11:27 am
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:27 am to TheDrunkenTigah
Perch trap.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:28 am to TheDrunkenTigah
electroshock and use them for bait 
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:29 am to Clyde Tipton
quote:
Perch trap.
What dat is? Like a crab trap made out of smaller mesh or hoop?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:30 am to TheDrunkenTigah
Flathead will destroy the bream. A couple of big bass will do the same. Don't go overboard on the flatheads or they will eat everything. I would just go the bass route. I would try to get some decent ones.
I'm about to have to start really pulling a bunch of small 1.5 pound bass out of our lake, time for a fish fry I guess.
I'm about to have to start really pulling a bunch of small 1.5 pound bass out of our lake, time for a fish fry I guess.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 11:32 am
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:30 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
use them for bait
the jugs are ready, this isn't the worst problem I've ever had
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:31 am to TheDrunkenTigah
You can probably catch them in any fish trap. We use catfish traps and catch small bream all the time.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:31 am to Clyde Tipton
quote:
Perch trap.
It'll do the work a lot quicker than a rod and reel and a few predators, but yeah, I'd thin them out and add a few nice bass, skip the catfish.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 11:33 am
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:31 am to TheDrunkenTigah
Throw everything you catch on the bank.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:34 am to AlxTgr
if you are certain there is nothing desirable in there and you want to start new, a couple of large burlap sacks of black walnuts with the meat still on them will do the trick.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:36 am to TheDrunkenTigah
ANSWER:
Bring over a bunch of Kindergarten kids with Snoopy fishing poles and a bucket of worms / crickets. They'll sit there all day jerking little perch like that and have a ball doing it!
Bring over a bunch of Kindergarten kids with Snoopy fishing poles and a bucket of worms / crickets. They'll sit there all day jerking little perch like that and have a ball doing it!
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:41 am to AlxTgr
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Throw everything you catch on the bank.
It's way past that. I need weapons of mass destruction.
Tclay, perch trap looks like it'll do work
BP, how you rig up the burlap?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:42 am to smoked hog
quote:
Flathead will destroy the bream. A couple of big bass will do the same. Don't go overboard on the flatheads or they will eat everything. I would just go the bass route. I would try to get some decent ones.
I would hold off on flatheads as well. They have the ability to mess up a small pond like that. Throw in a few big bass and pull every bream you catch out of there. It may take a year or two for things to get back to normal but it will work.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:43 am to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:Temik
Throw everything you catch on the bank.
It's way past that. I need weapons of mass destruction.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:44 am to TheDrunkenTigah
We have a pond with the same issue. Its stocked with bass, pond catfish, and bream. Havent caught a decent bream in 2 years. Crickets get taken in seconds but I catch a few cats on cut potato thats sat in a cricket bucket for a few days.
Thinking of getting a trap to thin out the little bastards
Thinking of getting a trap to thin out the little bastards
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:52 am to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:
Tclay, perch trap looks like it'll do work
For sure, it fishes the entire time it's in the water. It'll do serious work over night. My grandpa used a couple for years when he was running multiple trot lines.
They are easy to make and a fun project. Start researching and find one you like and get plans for it.
We found old hush puppies are great bait because they hold together better than a slice of white bread. That or a foot cut out of some panty hose stuffed with dry dog food and tied off.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:54 am to TheDrunkenTigah
Invite a couple of bucket sitters to come and fish for an afternoon.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:57 am to TheDrunkenTigah
Pump it down a foot and seine it.
Edit: that will be roughly 163,000 gallons to drop it one foot (43,560*0.5*7). A 3" pump will do about 20,000 gal/hour.
I say one foot so you can use a 6' seine. They are considerably cheaper than 8' ones.
Edit: that will be roughly 163,000 gallons to drop it one foot (43,560*0.5*7). A 3" pump will do about 20,000 gal/hour.
I say one foot so you can use a 6' seine. They are considerably cheaper than 8' ones.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:05 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Traps and bass. Then when you get it under control take out 50-75 percent of the water from November through February (assuming you have a water source). The bass will clean house all winter and be fat and happy for the spawn.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:22 pm to Clyde Tipton
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For sure, it fishes the entire time it's in the water. It'll do serious work over night.
That's exactly what I'm looking for. It's kinda hard to drag a boat down there and I wasn't looking forward to throwing a cast net from a canoe.
Also guys, draining isn't really an option. The dam is a heavily used road, no culvert.
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