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Taliban: US POW Was A "Valued" Guest

Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:42 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:42 am
Jeez, could this get any more bizarre?

From NBC

This is really shaking up to be an interesting situation. Couple this with the dad's mysterious tweets that have now magically disappeared, one has to wonder...

What kind of distraction from the VA failures was this supposed to be?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:46 am to
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Couple this with the dad's mysterious tweets that have now magically disappeared, one has to wonder...


What tweets? I haven't paid close attention to the situation
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:48 am to
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:50 am to
Read this last night. This same story was sent to me by a relative in the military. Now I'm seeing it in other places.

Top Part was ripped from the OT:

Taken from a FB page:

I read this earlier today. Supposedly written by a fellow soldier who was there ------> We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday





Bowe Bergdahl is no "hero". Here are the facts: In the weeks leading up to his "capture", Bergdahl made statements that he was "ashamed to be an American" and "The horror that is america is disgusting." He shipped his personal belongings home. He asked his Squad Leader what would happen if he took someone else's weapon and other sensitive items off base.

On the day of his departure, he was drinking with the Afghans he had befriended. After being caught, he was verbally reprimanded. That evening, angry after being reprimanded, he left behind his weapons, took a knife (by some statements up to five knives), some bottled water, and hid in the back of a vehicle owned by one of the local laborers. Bergdahl and at least two Afghans then drove off base to go smoke hashish, according to multiple statements. After smoking hashish, Bergdahl then walked off into the countryside. By some accounts, he set off to go "find himself" in the mountains. By other accounts, his plan was to walk to Pakistan.

He was discovered missing the next morning at about 0900. By 1200 that day, the entire war in Afghanistan had ground to a halt as all available air assets in Afghanistan were diverted to search for Bergdahl.

In the end assessment, the acts of this "soldier" cost the lives of other Americans (ones that didn't leave their posts in combat), and cost us hundreds of millions of dollars due to his selfish, dishonorable acts. He is a deserter, EVERYBODY in the Chain of Command knows it, and the fact that the US Government continues to pay and promote him shows the lengths they will go to manipulate public opinion.





Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:50 am to
Wow! So this administration did all of this as a distraction from the VA? And the VA debacle only just occurred. So that means the Obama administration moves with lightening speed and incredible results.

Or it could mean that conservatives think when Obama takes a shite it's a conspiracy.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:52 am to
Benghazi movie comes to mind.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:52 am to
Might be some Stockholm Syndrome kicking in? That does sound weird.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Wow! So this administration did all of this as a distraction from the VA? And the VA debacle only just occurred. So that means the Obama administration moves with lightening speed and incredible results.


All Pols do when they need a distraction.

quote:

Or it could mean that conservatives think when Obama takes a shite it's a conspiracy.


Could be this as well.

Doesn't explain the father's anti-American tweets he has made in the past, coupled with the fact that this soldier was apparently a deserter, which is coming out in many places now.
Posted by ClydeFrog
Kenya
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:53 am to
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EZE Tiger Fan




Seriously though, I understand the circumstances of his capture are a bit unclear but he was a POW for long enough to develop some major psychological issues; Stockholm Syndrome and what not. Or like Theon Greyjoy for you Game of Thrones fans.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 8:54 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:56 am to
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Might be some Stockholm Syndrome kicking in? That does sound weird.



If there is any truth to the two statements that he linked, the dude was favorable to the Taliban and sought them out.

Stockholm syndrome would have occurred post-capture, not pre-captrue.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50229 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:58 am to
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Seriously though, I understand the circumstances of his capture are a bit unclear but he was a POW for long enough to develop some major psychological issues; Stockholm Syndrome and what not. Or like Theon Greyjoy for you Game of Thrones fans.


Not discounting this at all...

It would just be a MAJOR coincidence that his father is very anti-American, he joins the military, then this? Now, we get him back for FIVE of their worst men, and the dad tweets that garbage?

This is just strange. My Asperger's will not allow me to process this. LOL
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:58 am to
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So that means the Obama administration moves with lightening speed and incredible results.


These talks have been going on for a long time now. You can be sure of that.

All Obama had to do was give the go-ahead. After all, he does have a pen and a phone, amirite?

While I doubt it has specifically to do with the VA, I wouldn't be surprised that opposition to the deal was why the CIA Station Chief in Afghanistan was "outed".

This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 9:02 am
Posted by ClydeFrog
Kenya
Member since Jul 2012
3261 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:00 am to
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If there is any truth to the two statements that he linked, the dude was favorable to the Taliban and sought them out.


Yeah, that's why I said the circumstances are unclear. We probably need some time to let the shite settle before we really decide what happened.

If the links are correct though and this guy went willing and was a guest and we traded five top Taliban guys for a "POW"; oh man did Obama get played.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:02 am to
I have no reason to doubt the story that he simply walked away, and got a whole bunch of people killed for his douchebaggery.

He should be in prison, at the very least.

LC
Posted by son of arlo
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:02 am to
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If there is any truth to the two statements that he linked, the dude was favorable to the Taliban and sought them out.


Yeah. If the guy's a Johnny Taliban, there's no SS.

If those two statements are true, he's guilty of treason.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50229 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:02 am to
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If there is any truth to the two statements that he linked, the dude was favorable to the Taliban and sought them out. Stockholm syndrome would have occurred post-capture, not pre-captrue.


Bingo. Thus my inability to process this.

Couple that with Obama saying: "we refuse to leave one of our own behind", yet he allows SEALS to be murdered at Behghazi.

Does. Not. Compute.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9604 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:04 am to
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If the links are correct though and this guy went willing and was a guest and we traded five top Taliban guys for a "POW"; oh man did Obama get played.



Obama knew what he was doing. Just think, he promised to close GITMO and now he's 5 murderous animals closer.

How do you think "Maya" from "Zero Dark Thirty" is feeling right now?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:05 am to
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If those two statements are true, he's guilty of treason.



So what would the process be? Will there be hearings around the situation or will we get Senators the likes of McCain saying "Theres no need to drag this guy's name through the mud, he has been through enough in the last 5yrs"
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:07 am to
Benghazi was like 2 years ago dude.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34857 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:08 am to
Double wow!

So, we have no released Islamists terrorists to do us harm, and set a terrible precedent, in a trade for an Islamist sympathizer/military deserter? Sounds like a drone strike would have been more appropriate than a swap.

Oh well...another albatross to hang around Obama's Islamist sympathizer neck. Insanity on parade.

It just goes on and on.
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