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80%-90% of employer-provided insurance will disappear as ObamaCare takes hold

Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:38 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:38 pm
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Analysts predict most employer-provided insurance will disappear as ObamaCare takes hold
By Jim Angle
May 30, 2014


Across the political spectrum, analysts now say that 80 to 90 percent of employer-provided insurance, the mainstay of American health coverage for decades, will disappear as ObamaCare takes hold.

The research firm S&P IQ predicts less than 10 percent of those who get insurance at work will still get it there ten years from now.

"The companies will really be hard pressed to justify why they would continue to have to spend the kind of money they spend by offering insurance through corporate plans when there's an alternative that's subsidized by the government" said Michael Thompson, head of S&P IQ.

Even a former adviser to President Obama, Zeke Emanuel, predicted less than 20 percent who now get employer-provided insurance will still get it ten years from now. He wrote in his book "Reinventing American Health Care" that "By 2025 few private-sector employers will still be providing health insurance."

Emanuel told Fox News, “it's going to actually be better for people. They'll have more choice...

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It's going to actually be better for people
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44013 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:40 pm to
Thank God. Why should health insurance be tied to one's employer?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69215 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:43 pm to
Wild t, your god, Fdr, is the reason for that being the case
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123745 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:45 pm to
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Why should health insurance be tied to one's employer?
Now?
Because the alternative is Obamacaid, and trust me, there is NO COMPARISON between current Employer-based health insurance and the Obamacaid Exchange Plans.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:46 pm to
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Why should health insurance be tied to one's employer?




It's not. You can purchase health insurance outside your employer anytime you'd like.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44013 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:50 pm to
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Wild t, your god, Fdr, is the reason for that being the case


Why do you think a businessman should be saddled with that expense? Shouldn't it be up to the individual?

Are you next going to suggest that they should put up for our homeowners' insurance? Auto insurance? Where does it end?

Why do you think FDR is my God?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44013 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:52 pm to
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It's not. You can purchase health insurance outside your employer anytime you'd like.







then what's the big deal?
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:52 pm to
Zeke Emanuel defines people as elected Democrats. Everyone else be damned.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:54 pm to
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Why do you think a businessman should be saddled with that expense?


most businesses have enjoyed using benefits as a differentiator

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123745 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:55 pm to
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then what's the big deal?
Again, the "big deal" is the nature of Obamacaid
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123745 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:57 pm to
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Why do you think a businessman should be saddled with that expense?
You were under the impression Obamacare unsaddled businessmen of expense?
Posted by OldTigahFot
Drinkin' with the rocket scientists
Member since Jan 2012
10500 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:00 pm to
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then what's the big deal?


Because the government is removing our right to choose. I thought you were big on freedom to choose.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:01 pm to
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then what's the big deal?


Being essentially forced into Obmacare with less choices and something I don't want.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36647 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:01 pm to
When it is actually only 60-70% who lose it, it will be touted as a success
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44013 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:02 pm to
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most businesses have enjoyed using benefits as a differentiator

Theey still can, just as I've lways been able to buy it myself.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70674 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:02 pm to
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Emanuel told Fox News, “it's going to actually be better for people. They'll have more choice...


Wait, they're going to let us choose plans that don't cover contraception and drug rehab? Great!!
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44013 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:03 pm to

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You were under the impression Obamacare unsaddled businessmen of expense?


Given the thread title, why not?


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80%-90% of employer-provided insurance will disappear as ObamaCare takes hold
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44013 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:05 pm to
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Because the government is removing our right to choose. I thought you were big on freedom to choose.

Is government forcing these companies to disappear employer provided health insurance, or are employers choosing not to provide it?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44013 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:07 pm to
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Being essentially forced into Obmacare with less choices and something I don't want.


That's ironic, because every employer that offered health insurance to me gave me no options.

And I don't think Obamacare is an insurance plan as you imply.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36647 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:09 pm to
So what was once a benefit will no longer be. Do you think they will increase salary now that they don't have to pay for insurance?

You get 3 guesses.
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