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Eric Shinseki fired (correction resigned)
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:39 am
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:39 am
Obama accepted resignation. Interesting. Did not expect that.
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But while it's clearly true that the biggest sins committed here came from deep within the bureaucracy rather than the top of the Obama administration, wrongdoing by high officials really does seem relevant in this case. Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki was right to step down. But it's unfortunate that Obama framed this as something he did reluctantly in order to help quell a political controversy.
"A few minutes ago Sec Shinseki offered me his own resignation," Obama said, With considerable regret, I accepted."
He should have fired him.
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This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 10:44 am
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:40 am to NC_Tigah
See ... it's not that hard.
People get fired all the time.
People get fired all the time.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:42 am to NC_Tigah
Won't make a difference, but it had to be done. Shinseki is not a bad person, he just isn't the guy to do what is necessary.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:43 am to NC_Tigah
He was a veteran. It was with pleasure Barry did that.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:44 am to NC_Tigah
How many military people have been fired for incompetence but he's left civilian leadership largely alone?
Patreus and Shinseki for the military side
Who has been fired from the other non-military agencies?
Patreus and Shinseki for the military side
Who has been fired from the other non-military agencies?
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:45 am to rattlebucket
Barry hates vets, like he use to hate gays.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:45 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:49 am to NC_Tigah
Friday is bury the news day.
This needed to happen.
This needed to happen.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:53 am to KeyserSoze999
quote:
Barry hates vets
My opinion is that he views military personnel and veterans the way many people view squirrels running rampant in neighborhoods ... i.e. somewhat of a nuisance, but abundant, and if you run over one ... ho hum ... not a big deal.
He doesn't give a shite about vets.
That much should be obvious.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:56 am to TOKEN
No person, including the President, can fix the VA. It is, not ironically, the perfect picture of government run health care in the United States: long waits, poor care and service, apathetic professionals, etc.
While Obama's feet should be held to the fire relative to his campaign comments on fixing the VA, I by no means blame him for the issues of the VA...they cannot be fixed.
I do, however, blame him for kicking the US health care can down the road towards this type of care for everyone.
While Obama's feet should be held to the fire relative to his campaign comments on fixing the VA, I by no means blame him for the issues of the VA...they cannot be fixed.
I do, however, blame him for kicking the US health care can down the road towards this type of care for everyone.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:56 am to NC_Tigah
It was only a matter of when.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:59 am to rattlebucket
quote:lol this morning conservatives demanded Obama ask for his resignation. A thread was started on this. Now that he did, he's criticized for doing so.
He was a veteran. It was with pleasure Barry did that.
NC can you e-prescribe mess for this condition of schyzo?
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:08 am to NC_Tigah
Happy trails, General Beret!
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:49 am to Vegas Bengal
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Now that he did, he's criticized for doing so
Who is criticizing him? Even you of all people are level headed enough to see this was a week late.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:04 pm to DeltaDoc
quote:
No person, including the President, can fix the VA. It is, not ironically, the perfect picture of government run health care in the United States: long waits, poor care and service, apathetic professionals, etc.
While Obama's feet should be held to the fire relative to his campaign comments on fixing the VA, I by no means blame him for the issues of the VA...they cannot be fixed.
I do, however, blame him for kicking the US health care can down the road towards this type of care for everyone.
pretty much agree with this.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:04 pm to idlewatcher
Glad he finally took Romney's advice
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:06 pm to Vegas Bengal
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lol this morning conservatives demanded Obama ask for his resignation
I was wondering by Barry didn't get some balls and just FIRE him.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:12 pm to navy
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I was wondering by Barry didn't get some balls and just FIRE him.
he was pretty much fired. its pretty rare they call these things as "firings"
But in essence it is a firing. He was told to take one for the team, and he did.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:15 pm to DeltaDoc
Fair comments Delta Doc. But scary part is "they cannot be fixed".
Should it be shut down. I mean really. Cannot be fixed suggests it should not exist. Surely we need to address treatment of our veterans.
Your concluding remark regarding the US Healthcare is of more concern since it has larger repercussions and costs and since it affects a much larger population.
Should it be shut down. I mean really. Cannot be fixed suggests it should not exist. Surely we need to address treatment of our veterans.
Your concluding remark regarding the US Healthcare is of more concern since it has larger repercussions and costs and since it affects a much larger population.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:19 pm to Hawkeye95
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he was pretty much fired. its pretty rare they call these things as "firings"
People in the private sector get FIRED all the time.
Military Officers are RELIEVED all the time.
They don't get politely asked to quietly resign (although I will concede that in the private sector, this sometimes happens, too).
But ... if one is truly PISSED and MAD about something found out about on the news ... and you really want to make a point ... you FIRE someone.... puts everyone else on notice.
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