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Should Arts and Humanities Majors be denied Grants and Loans?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:30 pm
Make arts and humanities type studies, graduate/master level degrees
taxpayers shouldn't be funding degrees that don't lead to direct professional employment
If school wants, they can grant/loan students from their endowments....no tax payer money
I looked and looked.....I'd like to see an unemployment/loan default list based on major(as a percentage)
I guess no academic institution sees the need to present a study showing which majors are "worth it" and which are not.
taxpayers shouldn't be funding degrees that don't lead to direct professional employment
If school wants, they can grant/loan students from their endowments....no tax payer money
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Half of recent grads are working jobs that don't require a degree, according to research from the Center for College Affordability and Productivity, released in January.
I looked and looked.....I'd like to see an unemployment/loan default list based on major(as a percentage)
I guess no academic institution sees the need to present a study showing which majors are "worth it" and which are not.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 4:32 pm
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:31 pm to Iona Fan Man
IN !!!!!!
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:31 pm to Iona Fan Man
Yep
Give em to engineering students
Give em to engineering students
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:32 pm to Iona Fan Man
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arts and humanities type studies
Chick majors, huh bruh
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:33 pm to Iona Fan Man
I think there is actually a study that shows, over time, a very large percentage of liberal arts majors and humanities majors earn more than other degree holders.
Let me see if I can find it. A friend of mine, a philosophy professor, sent me the article.
Let me see if I can find it. A friend of mine, a philosophy professor, sent me the article.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:33 pm to Will Munny
French Literature, Art History, Asian Studies
worth $60k in debt?
worth $60k in debt?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:34 pm to Iona Fan Man
Those are degrees I wouldn't pursue, but they are needed in society.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:36 pm to Iona Fan Man
Would politcal science be included in these humanities?
Because I know alot of attorneys that majored in Poli Sci and most attorneys obviously make bank.
Because I know alot of attorneys that majored in Poli Sci and most attorneys obviously make bank.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:36 pm to Iona Fan Man
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worth $60k in debt?
What you're discounting is all the trim those students, during their liberal arts undergrad studies, get for $60k.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:37 pm to Iona Fan Man
No. We should, however, more heavily subsidize people to study for careers in Tech, healthcare, business, engineering, and science related fields.
Then we can say there truly is no excuse for majoring in Women's studies.
Then we can say there truly is no excuse for majoring in Women's studies.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:37 pm to SabiDojo
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a very large percentage of liberal arts majors and humanities majors earn more than other degree holders over time.
in jobs related to their major?
Not trying to stubbornly discredit....just, the Lib arts majors usually come from money....so that may skew rates.
Also, I want to see as a %
1 million BUS majors
25,000 art history
150k default in business
15k default in Art History
"study shows bus majors default 10 fold over art history majors"
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:40 pm to Iona Fan Man
No, but the government should incentivize productive majors through better terms.
In a perfect world, we'd not only do that, but exaggerate the incentives or lack thereof the further down the chain you get.
Getting a humanities degree from a terrible school is not something the government should shell out 100k for. Government loan restrictions for for-profit institutions would largely dry up those cesspools, or at least make them legitimize their business model.
In a perfect world, we'd not only do that, but exaggerate the incentives or lack thereof the further down the chain you get.
Getting a humanities degree from a terrible school is not something the government should shell out 100k for. Government loan restrictions for for-profit institutions would largely dry up those cesspools, or at least make them legitimize their business model.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:41 pm to Iona Fan Man
Do these studies maintain that statistical claim when only graduates are assessed?
Which majors experience the highest dropout rates? The debt doesn't vanish when you quit, but your earning potential easily can.
Which majors experience the highest dropout rates? The debt doesn't vanish when you quit, but your earning potential easily can.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:41 pm to Iona Fan Man
Teachers should receive free tuition with a 20 year contract. If you quit prior, you repay in totality.
If they can't hack the 20 year committment, eliminate the middle man and enroll at Champions Real Estate School right after HS graduation.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:43 pm to Iona Fan Man
Not all, but many teachers have degrees in those fields, especially pre-secondary schools. That's employment.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:43 pm to Sao
Teachers already get deals on fed loans. As do most other public servants.
Go to school, choose income based repayment, pay for 10 years, and you're released from the leftover as long as you stay in a public service position.
Go to school, choose income based repayment, pay for 10 years, and you're released from the leftover as long as you stay in a public service position.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:44 pm to Sao
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Teachers should receive free tuition with a 20 year contract. If you quit prior, you repay in totality.
Aren't there already 10-year and 20-year public forgiveness programs?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:45 pm to Brightside Bengal
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Because I know alot of attorneys that majored in Poli Sci and most attorneys obviously make bank.
yeah....about that
the Bar pass rate is only like %50...so what does a degree in PoliSci do for you when you haven't passed the bar?
Polisci doesn't lead to direct employment...it's gone.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:46 pm to Sao
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Teachers should receive free tuition with a 20 year contract. If you quit prior, you repay in totality. If they can't hack the 20 year committment, eliminate the middle man and enroll at Champions Real Estate School right after HS graduation.
And they should be paid well, for a year round school year, to attract a higher cut of human being to a thankless profession that our future depends on in a global labor market.
We've got a billion Asians coming up into the global middle class, over the next decade, it's time for drastic measures.
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