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Rolfe Mc Collister weighs in on EBR Schools.

Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35825 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:16 pm
It's not just SG proponents who are fed up.


quote:

Schools still drive population growth

By Rolfe McCollister
Published May 26, 2014 at 6:00 am (Updated May 23, 2014)

Schools still drive population growth

The new census figures were released, and The Advocate reported that from 2012 to 2013 our city lost 580 people and the unincorporated area of EBR gained 940.


That is a net gain of only 360 people for the parish of our capital city. I would challenge that analysis and ask someone to recalculate the figures, discounting the changes that are due to births and deaths. I bet you will see a much larger "drop" based on adults moving in and out of the city. This was happening in 2000, over a decade ago—and then, as now, good schools were the issue. Why have we not learned?


It baffles me that our community, business and local elected leaders have, for the most part, avoided tough decisions and left the schools issue up to our school boards, the unions and the numerous superintendents for many years. They have failed our community and our children; and our parish population, outside the cities of Zachary and Central, continues to decline. (We like to focus on our "metro area," which has grown, but that creates expensive sprawl as in other metros.)


Is it any surprise that parents want good schools for their children? Do you understand why a parent paying taxes for schools does not want to pay twice with private tuition? So we have continued to see residents move out of our parish for more than a decade, making Livingston and Ascension the fastest growing parishes in Louisiana. We have seen Zachary and Central form their own school districts to escape the madness known as EBR public schools. Check the results. Zachary was one of the top-three fastest growing cities in Louisiana. Central was also up.


The problem really came home to roost for East Baton Rouge when the Legislature failed twice to allow parents in the southeast part of our parish the chance to vote, like Zachary and Central, on establishing an independent school district. The desire for good schools did not go away—it morphed into a petition for a new city. Avoiding a solution to the problem didn't make it go away—it got bigger. Where was the vision? Where was the leadership?






The amount of effort and urgent activity at the Legislature and Metro Council to fix the problems makes me ask, Where has everyone been? This is not a new issue for EBR. If there had been just half this effort a decade ago, I doubt we would be discussing any "Saint." Zachary, Central and now St. George are symptoms of a problem—our schools. But we often avoid decisions until there is crisis; then we have no choice but to act. That is not the way to build a great city.


Evidence of the problem
If you want to see one of the reasons we have such bad schools, you just need to look at some of the comments in the press by those in leadership positions. (Who will stand up to them?)


• EBR School Superintendent Bernard Taylor on Sen. Bodi White's bill for semi-autonomous districts in EBR and giving more authority to principals: "This is lunacy. It's sadder than sad. We are making improvements. We are making academic progress. Financially, we couldn't be more stable. But it's still not good enough. The real issue is that the people want certain kids to only go to school with certain kids, and it's time to put this out on the table."


There is lunacy afoot, and it comes from Taylor. He needs to go. Now.

• State Rep. Pat Smith, a former member of the EBR school board:


Smith had a bill in the current session that would mandate sex education in public schools. Smith pleaded with the committee, saying, "It is about time we think about the children. There are children being abused because no one talks about it."




Was she thinking about children when she was on the school board and refused to support KIPP Academy opening here to help our children? What a hypocrite. Why not mandate reading and writing in public schools?


I recently met an African-American child who is in the sixth grade in a small private school in the Gardere area. When he came to the school after fourth grade in an EBR public school, he could barely write his name, and he was reading at pre-K level. How does that happen? Now, two years later, he is almost reading at grade level and has a future. He could learn, given a proper chance, and he did. But who was paid for five years to educate this child? What did EBR and the state get for its investment of $50,000 in this child (K-4)? And what did he get? This, Representative Smith, is abuse. I am sure there is much blame to go around. But this child found an option for his education, and it may literally have saved his life. How can anyone oppose that? KIPP Academy could have done that for thousands of children over the last decade in EBR. Would Rep. Smith and the unions rather this child remain in his failed school and eventually drop out, still functionally unable to read and write?


• Michael Deshotels, former head of the Louisiana Association of Educators union, wrote the following in his blog after HB 703 by Rep. John Bel Edwards (chairman of the House Democratic caucus and a candidate for governor) was defeated in the Senate Education Committee.


"The Senate Education Committee ignored the concerns of all the major public school stakeholders and sided with the charter school managers and other haters of public schools in killing HB 703. As I explained in previous posts, HB 703 would have prevented the proliferation of preadatory [sic] charters throughout the state. These are charter schools that are doing serious damage to our public education system and at the same time destroying the education profession."


Deshotels and the unions are worried about protecting adults and their jobs—not the children. Post-Katrina, charters and scholarship vouchers have completely reformed and rescued the New Orleans schools and children from the cesspool they were in. New Orleans has become a turnaround model for the nation, with more than 85% of children attending a charter and thousands using scholarships to attend the school they choose. School choice, including vouchers and charters, are the last hope for north Baton Rouge (led by New Schools for Baton Rouge) after EBR has failed them for decades. Who can be against changing that?

Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4583 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:52 pm to
I think he should be calling out defenders of the status quo. Moreover, I am surprised this doesn't get more play. Bernard Taylor has made some indefensible comments but I didn't realize he had so much company.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35825 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

I think he should be calling out defenders of the status quo. Moreover, I am surprised this doesn't get more play. Bernard Taylor has made some indefensible comments but I didn't realize he had so much company.


The status quo faction is much bigger than Bernard Taylor. Look how many Dems in the legislature from BR stepped up to block the last BRAC bill.

You would think these people would be outraged about the test scores of their constituents, but they don't really care about education except when the power structure or unions are threatened.

Taylor is a lightning rod, but he takes the hits and protects the others that have fought the reform crowd for years.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14472 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

It's not just SG proponents who are fed up


Duh.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35825 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:24 pm to
Others here would have you believe otherwise and it's only a few hot heads and opportunists who are stirring the pot.

Jim, I dont count you in that crowd .
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12289 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:25 pm to
An issue that has no answer... is that many of us don't give a frick anymore because we've given up.. We send our kids to private schools and say "to hell with the public system", we cross the street when the discussion roles around to actually holding these people responsible because we just don't give a flying frick anymore..

Of course we bemoan the taxes we pay for these schools but at this point, there is little to nothing that could be done that would encourage me to send my kids to public schools outside of BRMHS. Yes there are a few very good magnet elementary schools but why fight the hassle of buses when I've got a neighborhood private school that offers the same quality.

As Rolfe stated, if we start now, maybe in ten years we can turn it around and the next half generation of parents will buy in to the public school system.. Not know though and not until those in charge are shite canned and we get back to the basics, no.1 being the idea of neighborhood schools. Pride can go a long way in developing the relationship needed to foster a quality education at any school.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15034 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:30 pm to
I loved him in the Electric Mayhem
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35825 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:39 pm to
People bemoan the fact we have so much suburban sprawl, but they ignore the prime cause, poor public schools.

Instead they talk about rebuilding downtown, building bike trails, changing traffic patterns, and a lot of other feel good projects instead of addressing the biggest problem the schools.

It's past time to blame the judge, it's time to hold those in charge accountable.
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4583 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

An issue that has no answer... is that many of us don't give a frick anymore because we've given up.. We send our kids to private schools and say "to hell with the public system", we cross the street when the discussion roles around to actually holding these people responsible because we just don't give a flying frick anymore..


Truth Hurts
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6227 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

An issue that has no answer... is that many of us don't give a frick anymore because we've given up.. We send our kids to private schools and say "to hell with the public system", we cross the street when the discussion roles around to actually holding these people responsible because we just don't give a flying frick anymore..


Anyone who does fight for real reform is soon labeled a racist. And there are too many people supporting the status quo whose political choices clearly indicate that they are incapable of taking care of their own long-term interests.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

vouchers and charters, are the last hope for north Baton Rouge


At least he doesn't hide their privatization and state control agenda.

quote:

We have seen Zachary and Central form their own school districts to escape the madness known as EBR public schools.


Wow. not accurate at all. These school systems were formed to stop forced deseg and bussing. The schools improved when shitty students from north Baton Rouge stopped attending.

These good school systems are basically run the same way the bad ones are run. Same policies, same unions, and same curriculum. Wrap your head around that.

quote:

Smith had a bill in the current session that would mandate sex education in public schools.


Way to bring up what is possibly the most intelligent thing she has ever done.

quote:

I recently met an African-American child who is in the sixth grade


Uhh.
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Same policies, same unions, and same curriculum. Wrap your head around that.


Not even close. My wife teaches in the system and has seen the before and after. People of that community demand much more than EBRPSS could ever give.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35825 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:34 pm to
The guy writes a long thought out article, and that's the best you can do?

Stick your head in the sand and watch time pass up BR because of our school system.

Defend the indefensible with the same worn out arguments, but intelligent people know the truth.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

quote:
Same policies, same unions, and same curriculum. Wrap your head around that.


Not even close. My wife teaches in the system


You, and McCollister have nothing but emotional sentiments and rhetoric. Provide facts.

What policies are different at Central and Zachary?

Central and Zachary got rid of the teachers' union?

How is the curriculum different at Central or Zachary?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35825 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

You, and McCollister have nothing but emotional sentiments and rhetoric. Provide facts.


Fact-
quote:

What policies are different at Central and Zachary?

[quote]What policies are different at Central and Zachary?


I don't know, why goes policy matter ? WBRZ did an expose ' showing EBR does not follow their grade policies or their disciplinary policies. Teachers feel intimidated and worry about their safety. WAFB had another expose' showing how the administration didn't follow their internal policies and grades were misstated and kids graduated thst should not have. A school board member and a top administrator were vplicsted and the supt. was caught lying.

Now if I was moving to EBR Metro for a new job, would I buy a home in Centrsl, Zachary, Prairieville Watson or somewhere in BR if I had school age kids ? You know the answer and that is why EBR growth is stymied .

Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26470 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

These good school systems are basically run the same way the bad ones are run. Same policies, same unions, and same curriculum. Wrap your head around that.




Zachary and Central schools weren't run like the rest of EBRPSS when they were still a part of EBRPSS.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
36937 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

An issue that has no answer... is that many of us don't give a frick anymore because we've given up.. We send our kids to private schools and say "to hell with the public system", we cross the street when the discussion roles around to actually holding these people responsible because we just don't give a flying frick anymore..


I think this is a major part of it. The other part: how many of these political and business and community leaders have kids in EBRPS? My guess is almost all of them, if they have/had kids, send them to private schools. Rather than deal with the problem... especially since it is not something they can directly control, they just buy their personal way out of it via the private schools.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

EBR School Superintendent Bernard Taylor on Sen. Bodi White's bill for semi-autonomous districts in EBR and giving more authority to principals: "This is lunacy. It's sadder than sad. We are making improvements. We are making academic progress. Financially, we couldn't be more stable. But it's still not good enough. The real issue is that the people want certain kids to only go to school with certain kids, and it's time to put this out on the table."


There is lunacy afoot, and it comes from Taylor. He needs to go. Now.



This guy needs to be kicked to the curb NOW is right. He's a poor excuse for a leader and while he's only part of the problem (look at John White), he is full of shite and takes no accountability for the bad. There is NO progress in EBR. When he and the rest if the system take a look around and realize that test scores aren't the end all-be all, then they will have made progress to start from scratch. Taylor and co. are just digging a deeper hole. Seriously, whoever wants the next EBRPSS Superintendent's job, whether it's someone from TD.com, can have it. We can do no worse than Queen Taylor's clown arse.
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