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re: *OFFICIAL* Fringe M/TV Board rewatch thread (current episodes discussion p. 60)
Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:38 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:38 am to CocomoLSU
OP updated with the assignment this week (first two eps of S5).
Also, we still need some respons/re-response to the last four eps of S4, and S4 discussion in general.
Time to pick up the slack, fellas.
Also, we still need some respons/re-response to the last four eps of S4, and S4 discussion in general.
Time to pick up the slack, fellas.
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:36 am to CocomoLSU
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OP updated with the assignment this week (first two eps of S5).
Watched the first one last night. I can't believe I finally caught up
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:56 am to gjackx
Well then get your arse into some S4 discussion on the previous page.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:04 pm to TigerMyth36
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Not sure how much I liked them basically turning Olive into Superman with her do anything we need you to do super powers.
This was pretty odd. It started with the lights when Peter got captured to BOOM, she's able to help Bell collapse the two worlds at the same time...without even knowing it. Cortexiphan is like a real life LSD, but Walter couldn't handle that.
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I was a bit upset with the way Jones went out. He deserved a better ending. And no Jones, you weren't the bishop. You were never anything more than a pawn which is kind of sad.
I thought they should have figured out a way to slice him in half again, but that was just me. And yes, that dude got used!
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Belly is insane. Who would want to live in a world with spider monsters, slimy slug squids and gargoyles?
Did they explain where he slid down this path? I know he said it was "Walter's idea" because BOTH Peters had died in this timeline, but Walter would never do that to both worlds. And I'm not really sure why the new world needed bizarre sci-fi creatures to populate it either.
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I think Astrid should have died. Instead, she is up and walking about, mere hours after being shot in the gut which is just about the worst place to get shot.
It's not the same show without Astro, everyone knows that. She and Gene are the glue.
The whole Desmond thing was more unusual for me. I didn't watch Lost until AFTER Fringe originally aired. I've enjoyed the cameos of the Lost peeps (even Broyles), as well as the ones from Continuum. You guys REALLY need to check that show out, if you have not (starting to feel like a broken record with this though)
What's happened to BaddestAndvari? Has he been part of this thread at all?
Let the Season 5 fun begin
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:58 am to gjackx
bump after our week break and new week of discussion. SEASON 5 
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 5:59 am
Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:19 am to catholictigerfan
OP is updated with new episodes. I will add my comments in a little bit.
Loved these first two episodes.
Loved these first two episodes.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:02 pm to CocomoLSU
Transilience Thought Unifier Model-11
Judgment Day. YESSSS!!! Or I guess I should say Observer Day (O Day).
And this is the one with the best ending ever in the series.
I don't get how Olivia is split from them.
HAHAA. I forgot about that hobbit-looking dude having bought ambered Liv and using her as his coffee table.
You'd think they'd learn by now to put some sort of padding around people that they blast out of the amber, but nope....right into the wall you go, Liv.
Ah yes...the conversation about music that so awesomely sets up the end of the episode. Not much music anymore, and that music breeds hope, but nothing can grow from scorched earth. Awesome.
Liv: "We didn't save our world." Um, yes you did, girl. Just because the Observers took over eventually doesn't mean you didn't save anything. In fact, you saved TWO worlds. From being erased from existence entirely.
So Peter and Liv split up? I don't remember that at all...but why? All we get is that she wanted to move to NY and he didn't...and she says that she doesn't blame him because they had lost a child. WTF?
And when did they amber themselves compared to when O Day happened? Because both of them dreamed of waking up after it was over and obviously they saw each other and were looking for Etta. Then fastforward to now and they had been split up?
Windmark going HARD on Walter. I remember how great and intense this interrogation scene is.
Peter now has two guns on this raid to get Walter. Good to see not only has he learned that guns in these situations are helpful, but the more the merrier.
I love how Walter wipes the wrong side of the CD. Also, I always let it slide that there is no way the CD player should have worked because the car isn't on. But holy shite, what a scene. It really is the best from the whole show IMO.
Awesome episode, and a fantastic start to S5.
The Recordist
As thorough as the Observers are, they don't have any clue that there are tunnels to Harvard?
Also, I assume they can no longer do the "see all futures/timelines" thing? Otherwise they'd surely know everything that was going on and all that, no?
If they aren't planning on killing this loyalist officer dude, they sure as hell need to stop talking about their plans RIGHT in front of him.
Ole Etta is a stone cold interrogator, just like Jack Bauer...and she's going all JB on that dude with that machine. BTW, that machine is badass. Makes you age like that so quickly? Scary shite.
And of course, Liv talks to him for two minutes and he's ready to help/talk.
DESMOND, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
Liv tells the loyalist officer. "All the people that died, including your son.." WTF, Liv? He literally just asked you to go find his son and tell him not to expect his dad to come home. He's not dead.
Also, I love how Liv was completely against killing this dude, but was all about doing the exact same thing to his friends and coworkers when they were busting Walter out. Hypocrite much, Liv?
And he was actually lying to her anyway...good for you, Etta, for calling that shite. If I were Etta, I'd have shot that dude immediately after getting off the phone with her mom. Can't believe she let him go. BOOOOOO.
Cool scene with Etta and ole boy at the end though. Apparently Liv can change the world just by a certain look in her eyes.
And all of this is setting up Walter and his videotapes. I remember this...
Fantastic start to S5.
Judgment Day. YESSSS!!! Or I guess I should say Observer Day (O Day).
And this is the one with the best ending ever in the series.
I don't get how Olivia is split from them.
HAHAA. I forgot about that hobbit-looking dude having bought ambered Liv and using her as his coffee table.
You'd think they'd learn by now to put some sort of padding around people that they blast out of the amber, but nope....right into the wall you go, Liv.
Ah yes...the conversation about music that so awesomely sets up the end of the episode. Not much music anymore, and that music breeds hope, but nothing can grow from scorched earth. Awesome.
Liv: "We didn't save our world." Um, yes you did, girl. Just because the Observers took over eventually doesn't mean you didn't save anything. In fact, you saved TWO worlds. From being erased from existence entirely.
So Peter and Liv split up? I don't remember that at all...but why? All we get is that she wanted to move to NY and he didn't...and she says that she doesn't blame him because they had lost a child. WTF?
And when did they amber themselves compared to when O Day happened? Because both of them dreamed of waking up after it was over and obviously they saw each other and were looking for Etta. Then fastforward to now and they had been split up?
Windmark going HARD on Walter. I remember how great and intense this interrogation scene is.
Peter now has two guns on this raid to get Walter. Good to see not only has he learned that guns in these situations are helpful, but the more the merrier.
I love how Walter wipes the wrong side of the CD. Also, I always let it slide that there is no way the CD player should have worked because the car isn't on. But holy shite, what a scene. It really is the best from the whole show IMO.
Awesome episode, and a fantastic start to S5.
The Recordist
As thorough as the Observers are, they don't have any clue that there are tunnels to Harvard?
Also, I assume they can no longer do the "see all futures/timelines" thing? Otherwise they'd surely know everything that was going on and all that, no?
If they aren't planning on killing this loyalist officer dude, they sure as hell need to stop talking about their plans RIGHT in front of him.
Ole Etta is a stone cold interrogator, just like Jack Bauer...and she's going all JB on that dude with that machine. BTW, that machine is badass. Makes you age like that so quickly? Scary shite.
And of course, Liv talks to him for two minutes and he's ready to help/talk.
DESMOND, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
Liv tells the loyalist officer. "All the people that died, including your son.." WTF, Liv? He literally just asked you to go find his son and tell him not to expect his dad to come home. He's not dead.
Also, I love how Liv was completely against killing this dude, but was all about doing the exact same thing to his friends and coworkers when they were busting Walter out. Hypocrite much, Liv?
And he was actually lying to her anyway...good for you, Etta, for calling that shite. If I were Etta, I'd have shot that dude immediately after getting off the phone with her mom. Can't believe she let him go. BOOOOOO.
Cool scene with Etta and ole boy at the end though. Apparently Liv can change the world just by a certain look in her eyes.
And all of this is setting up Walter and his videotapes. I remember this...
Fantastic start to S5.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 9:19 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:41 am to gjackx
quote:Bell said it was Walter's idea. They just went overboard with the monsters. Would have made more sense for Bell to rule over a new human race but not monsters.
Did they explain where he slid down this path? I know he said it was "Walter's idea" because BOTH Peters had died in this timeline, but Walter would never do that to both worlds. And I'm not really sure why the new world needed bizarre sci-fi creatures to populate it either.
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It's not the same show without Astro, everyone knows that. She and Gene are the glue.
I love her interaction with Walter, but it would have been a nice emotional jolt to have her die.
quote:Pretty much all of the Big Time Fringe group didn't participate.
What's happened to BaddestAndvari? Has he been part of this thread at all?
Which in my mind is a good thing. Cokes thinks they would have helped the discussion but they roasted me for making just a few negative comments on my first watch. I prefer the group we have.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:51 am to CocomoLSU
Not many comments. Watched them late Sunday night so they didn't get my normal review.
The healing power of Yaz!
Great start to the crazy season.
Beast mode acting as usual.
MAIN BEEF - this will be a running theme. They overpowered the observers yet somehow the rebels always appear to be able to avoid detection.
Especially since they stayed at Harvard.
Wouldn't the observers scan the absolute crap out of the officer? Is he just going to hide from them the rest of his life.
Upon scanning him, They would know instantly that The Fringe Gang was hanging out at Harvard. I like the episode showing how cold Etta was but then they nutted the episode by letting the guy go even though he had the power to destroy the rebel movement. Weaksauce.
The healing power of Yaz!
Great start to the crazy season.
Beast mode acting as usual.
MAIN BEEF - this will be a running theme. They overpowered the observers yet somehow the rebels always appear to be able to avoid detection.
quote:This was a very weak point. I know they wanted to show how Olivia had some positive effect on Etta, but that was just plain stupid letting him go.
If they aren't planning on killing this loyalist officer dude, they sure as hell need to stop talking about their plans RIGHT in front of him.
Especially since they stayed at Harvard.
Wouldn't the observers scan the absolute crap out of the officer? Is he just going to hide from them the rest of his life.
Upon scanning him, They would know instantly that The Fringe Gang was hanging out at Harvard. I like the episode showing how cold Etta was but then they nutted the episode by letting the guy go even though he had the power to destroy the rebel movement. Weaksauce.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:56 am to TigerMyth36
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Bell said it was Walter's idea.
Right, but:
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They just went overboard with the monsters. Would have made more sense for Bell to rule over a new human race but not monsters.
That was the problem I had....well, aside from just randomly wanting to end two worlds and billions of people.
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Pretty much all of the Big Time Fringe group didn't participate.
Which in my mind is a good thing. Cokes thinks they would have helped the discussion but they roasted me for making just a few negative comments on my first watch. I prefer the group we have.
First off, I think the negativity would've been contained and not as bad as you starting a thread or "hating on" Fringe. Two, I do like the group we have as well...it would just be nice if it were more than the three of us, and gj and jam every now and then. I think the thread would have been awesome if we'd have had, say, 8-10 people of the original "interested" list. Not only would there be more discussion, but we'd get that many more points of view and opinions on what all was going on throughout the show, as well as some solid explanations from people with more indepth Fringe knowledge (fringeledge?) such as BA, Fear, etc.
But if they don't want to participate, I can't make them...this thread has been bumped on the reg for 7 months now with plenty of opportunities to jump in, and nobody really has. So ultimately I'm good with our group and am glad that we've stuck with it and never really wavered.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:05 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:I didn't start a thread hating on Fringe. I had a First Watch thread in which I made about 5 negative comments over the entire series.
I think the negativity would've been contained and not as bad as you starting a thread or "hating on" Fringe.
I was stalked by Fear for almost a year.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:38 pm to TigerMyth36
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This was a very weak point. I know they wanted to show how Olivia had some positive effect on Etta, but that was just plain stupid letting him go.
Especially since they stayed at Harvard.
Wouldn't the observers scan the absolute crap out of the officer? Is he just going to hide from them the rest of his life.
Upon scanning him, They would know instantly that The Fringe Gang was hanging out at Harvard. I like the episode showing how cold Etta was but then they nutted the episode by letting the guy go even though he had the power to destroy the rebel movement. Weaksauce.
Yeah, didn't make much sense. I know he told Etta he was gonna join the rebellion, but a) he's conditioned to lie, just like he did to Liv, and b) even if she believed him and he actually did join them, he'd be walking around with that information that an Observer could easily snatch from his memory in seconds, like you said.
Makes no sense to jeopardize yourselves like that...he's a ticking time information bomb.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 10:22 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:46 am to TigerMyth36
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I was stalked by Fear for almost a year.
Funny, I go through Fear stalking phases myself
And my biggest complaint so far with the "how did they get away with that?!" stuff is this...why did they go through all that trouble to fake killing peter to get them inside the perimeter where walter was being held, when Olivia had zero problems sneaking around to a side door? Couldn't they have all snuck around to said side door and busted in through there? I don't know, that's bothered me for a while now
And, why couldn't they have let Simon live for a few more eps? They killed him far to soon
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:52 am to CocomoLSU
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Makes no sense to jeopardize yourselves like that...he's an ticking time information bomb.
Yeah, that dude was bad news. Etta was right all along with how he was treated. For her to have a "heart" with him after all that, seemed pretty out of character. I know it's what Mommy said, but geez Mommy is way out of touch with reality now! This should have definitely been the end of them all... That torture weapon though
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:42 am to gjackx
I wonder if that device that Etta use can reverse the process. Who knows when the guy might die otherwise.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:50 am to jamsmiley
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I wonder if that device that Etta use can reverse the process. Who knows when the guy might die otherwise.
I don't see how, but that would be pretty awesome though.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:55 pm to CocomoLSU
Just started the first episode, looks pretty good
ETA: 45 min into the pilot: Dialogue is pretty shitty
ETA: 45 min into the pilot: Dialogue is pretty shitty
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:49 am to Mac
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Just started the first episode
As is S1:E1? If so, SPOILER ALERT everywhere in this thread!
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:53 am to Mac
quote:I don't remember that but most pilot episodes are a bit shaky as both the actors and writers find their footing.
45 min into the pilot: Dialogue is pretty shitty
As already stated, SPOILERS IN HERE......
You probably shouldn't read ANYTHING.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:13 pm to TigerMyth36
Hey! Where is everybody?
I'll get the ball rolling but I only watched the first episode and a neighbor has me trying to DeMalware his laptop so I am busy.
Only 13 episodes and we still get some filler. Sure the rocks they got were needed for "The Plan" but is still felt 100% like filler.
About 35 minutes in and I was wondering how they were going to wrap up the visit to the rough and tough criminal barter camp. Then at the last second I remembered the ending.
That brings up a point. Along with the Fringe group evidently the omnipotent observers also can't keep track of a mutant hillbilly camp using technology that seems pretty dang futuristic.
Along with that mutant hillbilly camp they also have no knowledge of the criminal rough and tumble barter camp?
I would have to say this is probably one of my least favorite episodes.
I'll get the ball rolling but I only watched the first episode and a neighbor has me trying to DeMalware his laptop so I am busy.
Only 13 episodes and we still get some filler. Sure the rocks they got were needed for "The Plan" but is still felt 100% like filler.
About 35 minutes in and I was wondering how they were going to wrap up the visit to the rough and tough criminal barter camp. Then at the last second I remembered the ending.
That brings up a point. Along with the Fringe group evidently the omnipotent observers also can't keep track of a mutant hillbilly camp using technology that seems pretty dang futuristic.
Along with that mutant hillbilly camp they also have no knowledge of the criminal rough and tumble barter camp?
I would have to say this is probably one of my least favorite episodes.
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