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What's a good podcast to really delve into and review .NET development?

Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:48 pm
Been feeling rusty and want to get an in depth refresher using the newest frameworks
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:49 pm to
Which area of .NET?
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:53 pm to
I have been reading Apress C# 5.0 and .NET 4.5 for a month. Its pretty good if you want to read a 1500 page book. Not a podcast though but includes some good samples in VS2012
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:55 pm to
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Which area of .NET?


Well that shows how much it's grown lol.

Mobile Development
ASP.NET
C#/VB.NET
Principles of OOP
Design recipes/patterns used these days
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:57 pm to
That the best book out on 5.0? I developed a site in 4.0. How much of a change has occurred in this version?
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:58 pm to
The book I just recommended includes all of that. Would be a really good book to have at least as a reference for those goals.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:59 pm to
K thanks

I'm assuming Barnes & Noble is carrying it? They're pretty fickle about what tech books they carry
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:01 pm to
C# 4-5 Not a whole lot. Framework 4.0-4.5 quite a bit.

LINK
Posted by Baers Foot
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:25 pm to
I'd take a look at some MVC 5.0 tutorials also. That's heating up as a new development platform for debate, so now you have:

C# vs. VB
Code First Dev vs. Database Driven Dev
Web Forms vs. MVC
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:33 pm to
MVC really doesn't replace Web Forms though. Its just that in some business models people that would use MVC today didn't have a choice they had to use WebForms. All depends on what you are trying to do. In many cases Web Forms is far faster to develop and will be the go to solution due to time/cost which will be chose for anyone that needs to develop internal utilities for say its employee base.. If you are a shop that issues out web software for the masses though MVC makes more sense.

So basically a software company may use MVC where as a internal IT development staff should choose Web Forms. If that makes sense.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Code First Dev vs. Database Driven Dev


How is this a debate?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:36 pm to
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How is this a debate?


which side would you argue for?
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:40 pm to
Data driven. A correctly developed database drives class structure.
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:46 pm to
So you force a company to always use the same database due to design choice? License agreements are often a sore subject. Tomorrow WidgetBase 4.0 may come out that is far cheaper and efficient and is every CTO's dream come true. But UnKnownKniteware is Oracle based.....
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:57 pm to
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Data driven. A correctly developed database drives class structure.

Or, perhaps a correctly developed app determines how your data should be structured? It's just a different way of thinking, and the debate has merit on either side.
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:00 pm to
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and the debate has merit on either side.



This..

Really best to know your client/company too. How they work. My company will switch from MSSQL to Oracle and back because of a few shiny objects. But if you work for a company that is determined to use a set DB then its probably best to develop exclusively with that DB in mind.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:32 pm to
I don't consider database design to necessarily equal the level of detail that brings those technical details to the forefront.

When I say database design I'm referring to a more abstract approach on how the data relates, what constitutes a class, what constitutes a property, required reports/auditing etc.

Whether we use SQL server or Oracle doesn't matter at that level.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:41 pm to
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When I say database design I'm referring to a more abstract approach on how the data relates, what constitutes a class, what constitutes a property, required reports/auditing etc.

See, you are thinking that data already exists and an app has to be written to modify and access it... of course you will start at the database if you already know what your data will look like and how it should be structured.

In many cases, though, you don't have that information, and it can be much more efficient to figure out what the app will do and how it will do it, and THEN decide how the data should be structured.
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