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Jindal expands CC rights?
Posted on 5/26/14 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 5/26/14 at 3:22 pm
Heard on WAFB that a new law will allow CC permit holders to carry in restaurants that serve alcohol. Is this new? Thought you could carry in restaurants but not bars? SIAP
Thanks to all our veterans and a Happy Memorial Day.
Thanks to all our veterans and a Happy Memorial Day.
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 4:09 pm to Remo Williams
Nope, not new.
Just a clarification to cover what some considered to be conflicting statutes.
Just a clarification to cover what some considered to be conflicting statutes.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:59 pm to dawg23
So what's the verdict? Can I open carry at hooters?
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:39 pm to dawg23
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Nope, not new.
Just a clarification to cover what some considered to be conflicting statutes.
+1
The old statute wasn't written clearly so this was just designed to clarify it.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 8:14 pm to Biff Tannen
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Can I open carry at hooters?
Nope.
HB72 (now Act 72) addressed CCW. Open carry has always been (still is) illegal in alcoholic beverage outlets.
The original statutes have been very clear to LSP for two decades. Louisiana has had (for decades) had a statute that says you can't possess a firearm on the premises of an alcoholic beverage outlet. For most citizens this means a business that has Class A liquor license.
However, there has always been an exemption allowing people with a CCW permit to carry (still can carry, under Act 72) in alcoholic beverage outlets that have Class A-R (Class A-Restaurant) liquor permit//license.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 8:35 pm to Remo Williams
So how do we know for sure what type of license a business has? Will it be a A-R if any good whatsoever is served?
Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:22 pm to Langston
I always look for the "must be 18/21 to enter" sign.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:51 am to Shexter
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I always look for the "must be 18/21 to enter" sign.
This is good clue that it is a bar//honkey tonk, not a restaurant.
Another clue would be if people are smoking. You can smoke in a bar, but not in a restaurant.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 9:00 am
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:06 pm to dawg23
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nor can you carry in the "lounge//bar" portion of a restaurant (for example, Olive Garden, Ralph & Kacoo's, T.J. Ribs, et al have lounge//bar area that is separate from the main dining area).
This is not true. For alcohol purposes, which is the reason you can't carry in bars, the "bar area" of a restuarant is no different than the dinning area. The bar area was typically defined by walls or special seating due to smoking laws. You can carry anywhere in a restaurant. Otherwise there would have to be separate alcohol licenses for the areas which there isn't.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:42 pm to SpeckledTiger
This whole hoopla proves that arbitrary limits on concealed carry is ridiculous. Especially since simply being in a bar area does not prove for a fact that said person will be drinking alcohol.
But the law is the law for now. My bitching won't help it.
But the law is the law for now. My bitching won't help it.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:49 pm to SpeckledTiger
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Otherwise there would have to be separate alcohol licenses for the areas which there isn't.
You answered your own question.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 9:59 am
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:13 pm to dawg23
No there isn't. A restaurant is granted a singular permit. Some places may have separate permits but they have to have complete separation (ie doors). Olive Garden for example has one permit. Basically if you are not asked to verify your age, you can carry there.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 5/28/14 at 7:53 am to SpeckledTiger
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No there isn't. A restaurant is granted a singular permit. Some places may have separate permits but they have to have complete separation (ie doors). Olive Garden for example has one permit. Basically if you are not asked to verify your age, you can carry there.
Thats a good way to look at it, thanks. And someone mentioned smoking, can you actually still smoke inside in some places? Around here you cant even smoke in a bar.
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