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Thurber
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re: Brees: New stadiums becoming crucial for cities to land Super Bowls


He's right. I hope we haven't seen the last Super Bowl in New Orleans





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SammyTiger
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He's right. I hope we haven't seen the last Super Bowl in New Orleans


They can't build a new stadium every year, the super dome still has a lot things that make it great.

Its proximity to a massive amount of entertainment, restaurants bars and hotels it a huge reason why it is such a popular location.

It doesn't hut that we keep it up.






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Its proximity to a massive amount of entertainment, restaurants bars and hotels it a huge reason why it is such a popular location.


That's my biggest reason for not wanting a new one. Where in the hell are they gonna put it ? The East? I will tailgate a whole let less if they do.






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Sentrius
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re: Brees: New stadiums becoming crucial for cities to land Super Bowls


This opens the floodgates, can of worms, lightning from the storm or whatever.

Everybody knew this was the case here but it's entirely different when a hall of fame QB publicly acknowledges it. It's basically give legitimate weight to an opinion already being widely circulated and he just took into official channels. It'll be interesting to see the response on the NFL's part and certain cities also.






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pmacneworleans
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Regardless as to whether its true, N.O. will have to make do with the Dome for the foreseeable future. There are no public funds available for this, and if it was placed on the ballot, I get the sense that people would overwhelmingly reject it.





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SmellslikeKevinBacon
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They could level the dome and build a new stadium/dome in it's place. I don't think we need a new stadium though.





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TigerB8
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re: Brees: New stadiums becoming crucial for cities to land Super Bowls


You have to feel fortunate that New Orleans even got the more recent Super Bowls. The rest of the Super Bowl sites have been awarded to locales with new/newer stadiums. Heck, Atlanta was told they had to have a new stadium or they wouldn't get another super bowl and the Georgia Dome isn't but 21 years old. They already broke ground on the new stadium.





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lsutigers1992
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They finished second this year and there won't be a new stadium every year. After this, it's Atlanta and San Diego. Then the playing field is leveled again.





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SaintEB
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They are giving these cities Super Bowls because of the contribution of public money....kinda like an award for allowing a billionaire to use your money to help build his team's new house. While I don't have a problem with it, Minneapolis in Feb is not a better site for a Super Bowl than New Orleans. San Diego, I'm sure, would make a great site. Atlanta....not so much.





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TigerBait1127
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Heck, Atlanta was told they had to have a new stadium or they wouldn't get another super bowl and the Georgia Dome isn't but 21 years old. They already broke ground on the new stadium


Well unlike the Dome, the Georgia dome was a shithole






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bountyhunter
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But that is a problem with how the NFL is allowed to operate as a non-profit trade organization. The local owners, and yes Benson is just as guilty as the others, are the ones that are making off like bandits. There's not many businesses in the world that are allowed to be fully profitable and receive free rent on the backs of the tax payers.





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NOSHAU
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But that is a problem with how the NFL is allowed to operate as a non-profit trade organization. The local owners, and yes Benson is just as guilty as the others, are the ones that are making off like bandits. There's not many businesses in the world that are allowed to be fully profitable and receive free rent on the backs of the tax payers.
While the NFL is a non-profit, the individual organizations are not and are taxed.






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lsuhunt555
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The problem is that its a very poor practice for Tax dollars to build new stadiums for private franchises that make millions of dollars. The NFL knows this is bad business so as an olive branch, they send the SB to these locations to infuse some of that money back into the local economy.





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Eman5805
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I think we'll get one more Super Bowl down the line. But within the next 15 years we're gonna be in a situation where we gotta get a new place to bring the Bowl back here.





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bountyhunter
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While the NFL is a non-profit, the individual organizations are not and are taxed

I realize the local teams are taxed, but what I am saying is the NFL is a profitable, executive corporation that is being allowed to operate in a non-profit status. They do more than the standard "trade association" status would imply, they hand out millions of dollars to locations based on those locations' willingness to give them free stuff, suspend employees based on the rules they impose, have the authority to block citizens from entering games (which are in publicly-funded facilities), hike prices on tickets/merchandise, and ultimately extort local governments to fund extravagant facilities that have a singular purpose. They run the NFL like a corporation, they should be paying for the privilege to use the local infrastructure.

If I, a private citizen, were to want to host an event in any one of these facilities I would have to pay for the right to do so. Even if I were a non-profit, my NPO would have to pay to host the event. Why is a profitable body not having to do the same? I think the boon of a NFL team in a city is over-stated and over-estimated, especially when aligned with the cost of keeping them in a location when they start making noise.



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DCBJR6
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They could level the dome and build a new stadium/dome in it's place. I don't think we need a new stadium though.


I agree. By no means do I want a new stadium, but if/when it becomes inevitable, that would be the ideal situation for me. As others have said in separate threads, the addition of surroundings like Champion's Square and Benson Towers have only added that much more uniqueness to the stadium's outside amenities.

The problem, of course, is where would the play for about two years (same situation as Minnesota). There's Tulane's brand new stadium, but with a 30,000 person capacity, it doesn't really work. There's LSU, but the scheduling conflicts with 8 Saints home games and 7/8 LSU home games could be a pain, along with the 90 or so mile difference.

Even with those questions, I still don't see a better situation that would include a whole different location for a new stadium.






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bountyhunter
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I love Tiger Stadium, but there is a huge disparity between the expected features of a professional football stadium and a college football stadium. I know a few Saints fans in the NO area (that aren't LSU, or really college football fans) that had to go here after Katrina and they were kind of shocked at the "bare-bones" experience. Of course it wasn't a shock to me because I understood the difference, but hearing those grown men whine about minor issue x, y, z was quite hilarious.

I don't really know what they are going to do to be honest. If that's the rule to get a Super Bowl I really don't think support can be garnered to achieve this. A lot of people in LA have similar thoughts that I listed above about public funds being used for essentially private use. I mean the Dome is fine, the renovations helped a lot. Yes, there are some things that still need to be done, they need to expand the bathrooms and the large display in the middle would be good to probably get at least another Super Bowl bid. I think they still need to replace the upper-level seats. But this is all stuff that can be done in the off-season in the next couple of years.



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Geauxld Finger
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as great and classic as the dome is, this day and age of the stadiums is all about the shiny new bells and whistles. Most of those are not doable to an existing structure like the dome. Yes the steel super structure is good basically forever, but you can keep redoing the interior and paint job on an 87 Camry as well. At some point, you just have to get something new because you don't want to be the guy in the league with the 80 year old stadium. (Green Bay non withstanding)

In reality there is no good place to put it other than where it sits. Algiers Point would be the next best scenario but not as good as where it is. My theory would be to spend as much as you can to keep making significant upgrades to the interior AND the exterior. I'm sure something can be done to make that parking garage area more useful. It's also ugly as shite.



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Zoombop
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Maybe I'm being naive, but I would prefer to never have another Super Bowl here over building a new stadium in the next 10-20 years. New Orleans without the Superdome is not dissimilar to NYC without the Empire State Building, that's how important it is to the history and image of the city.

Hosting Super Bowls is great, but it's not the only thing we host down here. Not having it will not cripple the city, and it surely won't affect most of our lives. In fact, it will be helpful not having to deal with traffic.

Just my two cents though.






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