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Russia and China bypass US dollar.

Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:03 am
Posted by darkhorse
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:03 am
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Russia and China took a small step toward undercutting the domination of the U.S. dollar as the international reserve currency on Tuesday when Russia’s second biggest financial institution, VTB, signed a deal with Bank of China to bypass the dollar and pay each other in domestic currencies.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:04 am to
Russia needs cheap stuff, too.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:06 am to
a banana republic economy the size of Italy and a Communist state-controlled market economy aren't going to bring down the US dollar.

The Fed might, though.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125386 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:55 am to
Well the Ruble isn't worth the paper its printed on now and its just going to get worse.

That and China over inflates the worth of their money.

This doom and gloom shite cracks me up.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4962 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 5:24 am to
The Ruskies and Chi-coms have been trying to do this for decades.

If we had a real President we would get the Saudi's to start opening up the oil spigots causing an oil glut
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The US could start dumping cheap natural gas onto the European markets. This would bankrupt to Russians as their economy is huge in the oil & gas.

Furthermore, the US could start slapping tarriffs & duties on the cheap crap that China imports to the US.

I don't see either happening with this current fool in the WH.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45699 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:10 am to
China and Russia would both be kissing USA's arse right now if Romney had won.

Elections have consequences. But hey! There's free phones and gay marriage. You know. The really important stuff.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58088 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:11 am to
China would be very stupid to try and "undercut" the dollar wouldn't they since they have a $trillion or so on loan to us at this time.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:13 am to
And so it begins
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10803 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:22 am to
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China would be very stupid to try and "undercut" the dollar wouldn't they since they have a $trillion or so on loan to us at this time.

Russia and China have each dumped $50 billion since October. But little Belgium has managed to take up the slack buying over $140 billion, almost %30 of it's GDP.

Mr Yellen must have a cousin in Brussels.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:35 am to
Other nations as Iran and Venezuela will join that coalition in a short time.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58088 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:37 am to
quote:

China and Russia would both be kissing USA's arse right now if Romney had won.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126932 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:40 am to
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Russia and China bypass US dollar.
Please explain to us, in macroeconomic terms, the possible significance of Russia's and China's decision. Thanks.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123769 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:41 am to
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Other nations as Iran and Venezuela will join that coalition in a short time.

Irony:
China pins the RMY to the Dollar.

If China fools around and loses that ability, it would be hilarious.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126932 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:46 am to
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Other nations as Iran and Venezuela will join that coalition in a short time.

Doing what?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125386 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:54 am to
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Doing what?

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10803 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 8:57 am to
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Please explain to us, in macroeconomic terms, the possible significance of Russia's and China's decision. Thanks.

$13B/year? Very little.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 9:08 am to
And alot of people don't even get it either.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125386 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 9:10 am to
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And alot of people don't even get it either.



Yea its doom and gloom
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 9:11 am to
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If we had a real President we would get the Saudi's to start opening up the oil spigots causing an oil glut


the saudis are tapped out, they vastly overstate their reserves.
This post was edited on 5/21/14 at 9:12 am
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 9:18 am to
just from the article:


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Demand for the dollar, which has long served as a safe and reliable reserve currency in international transactions, has allowed the U.S. to borrow almost unlimited cash and spend well beyond its means, which some economists say has afforded the United States an outsize influence on world affairs.

But the BRICS countries — Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa — a bloc of the world’s five major emerging economies, have long sought to diminish their dependence on the dollar, as a means of reshaping the world financial and geopolitical order. In the absence of a viable alternative, however, replacing it has proven difficult.


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“China sees the dominance of the dollar in international trade transactions as remnant of American global dominance, which they hope to overthrow in the years ahead. This is a small step in that direction, to reduce the primacy of the dollar in international trade,”



Note the word remnant.

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