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re: Does New Orleans need a new stadium?
Posted on 5/25/14 at 4:32 am to JasonL79
Posted on 5/25/14 at 4:32 am to JasonL79
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quote:Not true. My tickets are in the end zone of the terrace. I can see everything clearly. It is true
It's not true. The guy that I responded to originally said that if you sit in the endzone, you cannot see the endzone you are sitting in. He made a blanket statement that is not true. I've had tickets in the end zone for 9 years and can see it clearly. Maybe there is some seats that you cannot see it in but it's not for my section. It must me at a certain section or angle. I can see the whole endzone clearly. Here's a pic from my section:
Those seats in the shadows under the terrace in the endzones you can't see shite. If you're in the top 10-15 rows of those sections anything a yard or two into the endzone and all you see is head and shoulders. Then everyone stands up and you can't see anything and you end up watching the shitty TV's. The incline is just not enough.
My dad's company has 4 tickets in one of those sections and they gave them to him for the Buffalo game last year and I went. I'd never pay the money they pay to sit in those seats. I'd sit in the very top of the nosebleeds any day before I'd sit there again.
That said. I love the dome and we don't need a new stadium. I just wouldn't sit in those sections again. I don't think most Saints fans sit in those sections anyway. Atleast not for the crappy games. They sell them to visiting fans that don't know better.
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Posted on 5/25/14 at 10:15 am to hsfolk
They will eventually
Posted on 5/25/14 at 12:41 pm to hsfolk
No
Posted on 5/25/14 at 5:42 pm to hsfolk
No.
Nola doesn't get superbowls because of the Mercedes Benz Superdome, they get them because of the atmosphere of New Orleans and it being so close to the french quarter (and all the other things downtown).
New Orleans could have the worst stadium in the NFL, but will still get superbowls.
Nola doesn't get superbowls because of the Mercedes Benz Superdome, they get them because of the atmosphere of New Orleans and it being so close to the french quarter (and all the other things downtown).
New Orleans could have the worst stadium in the NFL, but will still get superbowls.
Posted on 5/25/14 at 7:27 pm to Indfanfromcol
The stadium for a Super Bowl is an after thought. The ability of a city to host the Super Bowl for week leading up is the biggest thing. Giving the SB to cities with new stadiums is just a reward to those owners and tax payers for shelling out a billion dollars.
This is evident by the fact that Miami has continued to get Super Bowls that stadium is an absolute dump but the city can host well.
The nfl gives the SB as a reward for spending money not because your new stadium is so super cool and has WiFi.
This is evident by the fact that Miami has continued to get Super Bowls that stadium is an absolute dump but the city can host well.
The nfl gives the SB as a reward for spending money not because your new stadium is so super cool and has WiFi.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 3:31 pm to JabarkusRussell
NO. New Orleans absolutely does not need a new stadium. The Superdome is already in the top half of stadiums, and the city is in the top three or so to host a SB. The Dome is aesthetically pleasing from the exterior, it is comfortable enough on the interior, and it is one of the most historically significant stadiums in the NFL.
A new stadium would likely cost literally more than one billion dollars for a small improvement. Think of all the ways that money could be better spent.
A new stadium would likely cost literally more than one billion dollars for a small improvement. Think of all the ways that money could be better spent.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:51 pm to GumBro Jackson
to me there are different ways of interpreting the question. the most obvious way is to answer just what you asked: do we need a new stadium? the answer is no. the stadium is structurally sound, has a new envelope (both cladding and roofing). it has amenities required such as ample suites, total capacity, lounges, flexibility of use, etc. the interior finishes are not in disrepair. new orleans saints dont NEED a new stadium.
if the question is to be read with the possible implied meaning of do we need a new stadium.. to keep getting superbowl periodically?
in my opinion the answer to that might be yes. NFL seems to be more willing than ever now to not be limited geographically, and past few years have suggested they will go to where there is a newly built modern stadium. of course, this isn't the case year in and year out but it does seem to be a trend.
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i have to think that if new orleans built a brand new stadium the superbowl WOULD come whereas it might not come (or as often going forward) otherwise.
possibly leads to follow up question: is the "ensuring" of a superbowl via a new stadium reason enough? i cant answer this as i am not a financial guru or anything like that (im an architect). in my humble opinion, i feel that alone isn't sufficient reason right now to build a new stadium.
the superdome is highly unique, as you all know, in its longevity of "style". look at other NFL stadiums which have been abandoned/torn down/replaced. its subjective - but they were "ugly" and/or in some way dysfunctional. the superdome is still a pretty darn nice facility (thanks to the millions spent on its upkeep and renovations). its location is also still extremely ideal in my opinion. it's not a suburban stadium (which was a trend for a while, and seems to have backfired in many cases).
if they were to build a new stadium i cant imagine it having the lure the superdome has if it was built in a suburb. if it was built downtown it would be a burden. im sure downtown sites could be found, but then you'd be left with a huge superdome that presumably would no longer be used for football bowls or much of anything else except for a few concerts and monster truck rallies. if they demolished the superdome i think that might be challenging too because of the huge cavity it would create in the ground (fill is very expensive!!).
for better or worse i think we need to all embrace the dome and run with it for the foreseeable future - with or without superbowls.
if the question is to be read with the possible implied meaning of do we need a new stadium.. to keep getting superbowl periodically?
in my opinion the answer to that might be yes. NFL seems to be more willing than ever now to not be limited geographically, and past few years have suggested they will go to where there is a newly built modern stadium. of course, this isn't the case year in and year out but it does seem to be a trend.
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i have to think that if new orleans built a brand new stadium the superbowl WOULD come whereas it might not come (or as often going forward) otherwise.
possibly leads to follow up question: is the "ensuring" of a superbowl via a new stadium reason enough? i cant answer this as i am not a financial guru or anything like that (im an architect). in my humble opinion, i feel that alone isn't sufficient reason right now to build a new stadium.
the superdome is highly unique, as you all know, in its longevity of "style". look at other NFL stadiums which have been abandoned/torn down/replaced. its subjective - but they were "ugly" and/or in some way dysfunctional. the superdome is still a pretty darn nice facility (thanks to the millions spent on its upkeep and renovations). its location is also still extremely ideal in my opinion. it's not a suburban stadium (which was a trend for a while, and seems to have backfired in many cases).
if they were to build a new stadium i cant imagine it having the lure the superdome has if it was built in a suburb. if it was built downtown it would be a burden. im sure downtown sites could be found, but then you'd be left with a huge superdome that presumably would no longer be used for football bowls or much of anything else except for a few concerts and monster truck rallies. if they demolished the superdome i think that might be challenging too because of the huge cavity it would create in the ground (fill is very expensive!!).
for better or worse i think we need to all embrace the dome and run with it for the foreseeable future - with or without superbowls.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:49 am to gerkin
Just needs NEW VIDEO SCREEN! Sound like another stadium anyone visit? ::cough:: LSU 
Posted on 5/31/14 at 2:53 am to gerkin
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for better or worse i think we need to all embrace the dome and run with it for the foreseeable future - with or without superbowls.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 4:35 pm to Dizz
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The Superdome is already in the top half of stadiums
You obviously haven't been to other stadiums if you think that.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 9:34 am to JabarkusRussell
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have to think that if new orleans built a brand new stadium the superbowl WOULD come whereas it might not come (or as often going forward) otherwise.
This has been a debate among economists for years. There is the belief that the purported revenue generated from hosting these events is highly inflated and exaggerated. Since the infrastructure of these hosts cities are typically in-place already, there's not a boom in construction type jobs -- mostly just temporary hospitality employment and event-day employment at the venue.
The area where the economists can't agree is the monetary value of the exposure as a travel destination to a world-wide audience. The coverage of the game in the weeks leading up are basically prolonged commercials for iconic restaurants and attractions. There is a high value there, but how much and how impactful it is -- well, that's the billion dollar question. Literally.
The importance of the most recent Super Bowl wasn't in the game itself (blackout and whatnot), but in showing that the city was still a premier host site and that the amenities offered to visitors for the time leading up to the game are greater than any city can offer. It was a success.
We will get more Super Bowls without a new stadium, just not as frequently as we did 25 years ago. The Super Bowl in New York last year was done so, I believe, in a effort to open the map up for Super Bowls to be played all over the NFL landscape -- including cities that don't have teams (Los Angeles) and possibly Europe.
New Orleans is now in competition with 30+ venues.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 9:36 am
Posted on 6/4/14 at 11:32 am to hsfolk
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't benson want a new stadium pre Katrina and was willing to leave n.o. If he didn't get it?
Posted on 6/4/14 at 3:30 pm to tigersownall
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't benson want a new stadium pre Katrina and was willing to leave n.o. If he didn't get it?
Yeah, the state basically gave him an office building and a new superdome instead, and he shut up about that for the time being.
While I dig most of the improvements, am I the only one who hates how they cut off access from the Hyatt to the Superdome completely? I used to like cutting through there. I wish they had incorporated that feature into the Championship Square deal. Oh well.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:15 pm to Y.A. Tittle
The Hyatt was essentially non-existent when that construction was done, and the New Orleans Center mall was non-existent (then was ultimately included in the sale of then-Dominion Tower).
I agree, though, that incorporating some elevated sections along the borders of Champions Square connecting the former New Orleans Center to the Superdome entrance ramps would have been a good longer-term solution. The Entergy building / One Poydras Plaza also connects through the Hyatt and into the NO Center area, and some people coming from across Loyola could be moved through that space as well.
I agree, though, that incorporating some elevated sections along the borders of Champions Square connecting the former New Orleans Center to the Superdome entrance ramps would have been a good longer-term solution. The Entergy building / One Poydras Plaza also connects through the Hyatt and into the NO Center area, and some people coming from across Loyola could be moved through that space as well.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 7:55 pm to hsfolk
No New Orleans doesn't need a new stadium but they won't be getting a Super Bowl for a while. Atlanta will probably get the next one with their new stadium and so on from there.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:17 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Yeah, the state basically gave him an office building and a new superdome instead, and he shut up about that for the time being.
That was years later because the state owed money
And that office was abandoned, rotting, and a Katrina eye sore
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:42 pm to TigerBait1127
Another thing to keep in mind when it comes to Super Bowls and Nola's competition is NFL expansion. I bet by 2025 there will be a Super Bowl in either London, Los Angeles or Toronto.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:10 am to tzimme4
NO. Keep updating the Dome.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:54 am to hsfolk
Does it need one? No
Would I like to see a new open air stadium. Yes, Yes I would.
Would I like to see a new open air stadium. Yes, Yes I would.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:39 am to JohnZeroQ
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Would I like to see a new open air stadium. Yes, Yes I would.
You would like to be in an open aired stadium at noon in september?
No thanks, sounds miserable to me
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 10:40 am
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