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Forecasting Saints top 3 WR's catches and yards

Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:28 pm
Last year Colston had 75 for 943 yards
Stills had 32 catches for 641
That could be i would hope the floor in Cooks' catches dept.

I'm predicting maybe Colston's # drop a bit more. 65 catches for 825 yards.
Stills goes for 49 catches for 785.
Cooks 55 catches for 855 yards.

All things considering, it should be a pretty tight grouping of production from our top 3 WR's imo.
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:32 pm to
Colston 74 for 830
Cooks 68 for 920
Stills 56 for 723
Posted by OldSouth
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:41 pm to
J. Jefferson 99 for 1,450
Colston 65 for 720
Cooks 50 for 700
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:43 pm to
No Jimmy?
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:43 pm to
IMO

Colston 84 for 1101
Stills 60 for 925
Cooks 49 for 662

Colston benefits from the presence of Cooks

This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:47 pm to
I think a lot will depend on how much of each role these guys play and who ends up as our 4th WR.

Colston is still going to be Colston and get all the tough possession catches.

Stills and Cooks can be interchangeable as deep threats and running quick hitting routes.

So if we take Morgan or Meachem into games that will eat into some of the deep threat catches for Cooks and Stills. If we take Toon or Coleman if he makes it they could eat into some of Colston's catches(and to a much lesser degree some of the deep stuff).

I think your numbers look pretty solid, but you also have to factor in that we took away 2 targets(Moore and Sproles) and only added Cooks. They combined for 100+ catches.

Meachem got 16 catches as the 4th receiver(we only carried 5 into games 2 weeks). You also have to question if PT will actually get 77 catches again and/or if the other backs actually get some of Sproles'/PT's targets.

So it's quite possible Colston's catches go up or down, and I think either Cooks or Stills is a little low. Quite possible we have 3 WRs with 1,000 yards or close to it on top of Graham's 1,000 yards.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

So it's quite possible Colston's catches go up or down, and I think either Cooks or Stills is a little low. Quite possible we have 3 WRs with 1,000 yards or close to it on top of Graham's 1,000 yards.




You nailed it.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:49 pm to
Colston
70 catches 950 yards (13.6avg)

Stills
50 catches 850 yards (17.0avg)

Cooks
60 catches 800 yards (13.3avg)

Colston is getting one year older, but he's never relied heavily on his speed, but more on precise route running, brees having time, and exposing the middle. With our OL in tact and performing up to expectations and running game back to decent form, expect colston to still be our #1 WR with JG being our #1 target.

Stills won't average his 20avg, but he is still an underrated burner that gets behind defenses. With the loss of Darren Sproles and Lance Moore, there are about 100 more catches available for these receivers. Expect Stills production to slightly increase his catches, but still make a statement with a 17 avg

The saints traded up for some undersized midget receiver by the name of Cooks. He's a Djax, Austin, or Cobb clone. Does it matter? He's a simple play maker. With Sproles and Lance moore missing, expect this midget to be CSP's new toy and 'x' factor. I wouldn't be surprised if my #s were under as I could simply see him catching 80-90 balls similarly to sproles. I expect him to be more productive in his playmaking abilities than sproles was last year.
Posted by MSTiger33
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:50 pm to
When will we find out if we can add JG to this group?
Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:01 pm to
Just some last year numbers to help get an idea. Brees completed 446 passes. 4 guys caught 70 or more passes(2 HBs, 1 TE, and 1 WR). 2 guys caught 30+ passes(2 WRs). No one else caught even 20 balls.

378 of Brees' 446 completions(85%) were caught by those 6. We lost 2 of them(1 70+ and 1 30+). We only added 1 guy that could easily get 30+ catches. Everyone else is a question mark.

Assuming Graham gets 85 and Colston gets 75 for simplicity's sake(about what they got last year), that's 160. That leaves about 220 catches for PT, Stills, and Cooks and another 70 for the rest if it breaks down about the same.

Split evenly PT, Stills, and Cooks would each get about 70 catches.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Quite possible we have 3 WRs with 1,000 yards or close to it on top of Graham's 1,000 yards.

Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:14 pm to
I said possible, not likely. And it's not like your numbers are far off from that.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

I said possible, not likely. And it's not like your numbers are far off from that.


i guess if you define close as being within 300 yards then go for it but i didn't give one WR a 1000 yds and you're giving the team a total of 4!
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:19 pm to
shut your whore mouth kanye east.

Just 2 seasons ago we were 18 yards away from 3 1k receivers.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:19 pm to
a rookie wr getting 70 catches and/or 1000 yards is pretty damn tough to come by.

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Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Just 2 seasons ago we were 18 yards away from 3 1k receivers.


2 is so far from 4.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:30 pm to
I honestly don't see 3 fwiw unless the two young birds (stills/cooks) set the world on fire.

I see legitimately 2. Colston has always played under the radar and if Cooks/JG end up demolishing our first 4 games, you'll see colston/stills free a lot more often
Posted by JPLIII
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Colston's # drop a bit more. 65 catches for 825 yards.


seems right

quote:

Stills goes for 49 catches for 785.


49 is low in my opinion. I think Stills and Colston have similar years.

quote:

Cooks 55 catches for 855 yards.


I think your high here.....39 for 624ish
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:40 pm to
I see us trying to transition to a little bit more balanced offense. 2009, Colston was our only 1k receiver. I see that being Jimmy now. With us having 3 wr's all tied pretty close but realistically speaking, they all won't be "that" close to 1k.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

I see us trying to transition to a little bit more balanced offense. 2009, Colston was our only 1k receiver. I see that being Jimmy now. With us having 3 wr's all tied pretty close but realistically speaking, they all won't be "that" close to 1k.



We were pretty balanced in 2011 as well and lit most teams up.

I think brees will be over 5k again, but this time the running game will complement him a lot better than the past couple years.
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