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PFF's Top 101 NFL Players from 2013
Posted on 5/17/14 at 1:50 am
Posted on 5/17/14 at 1:50 am
Pretty interesting list to look through...
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1. J.J. Watt
2. Robert Quinn
3. Peyton Manning
4. Gerald McCoy
5. Lavonte David
6. Richard Sherman
7. Evan Mathis
8. Lesean McCoy
9. Andrew Whitworth
10. Marshawn Lynch
11. Jamaal Charles
12. Joe Thomas
13. Jimmy Graham
14. Robert Mathis
15. Trent Williams
16. Michael Bennett
17. Ndamukong Suh
18. Darrelle Revis
19. Calais Campbell
20. Earl Thomas
21. Justin Houston
22. Devin McCourty
23. Brent Grimes
24. Patrick Willis
25. Josh Sitton
26. Kyle D. Williams
27. Jurrell Casey
28. Kam Chancellor
29. Marcell Dareus
30. Dontari Poe
31. NaVorro Bowman
32. Brandon Marshall
33. Antonio Brown
34. Jason Peters
35. Calvin Johnson
36. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
37. Eric Berry
38. Adrian L. Peterson
39. Jordy Nelson
40. Cameron Jordan
41. Greg Hardy
42. Jordan Gross
43. Philip Rivers
44. Tyron Smith
45. Louis Vasquez
46. Cameron Wake
47. Anquan Boldin
48. Russell Wilson
49. Keenan Lewis
50. Terrance Knighton
51. Andre Johnson
52. Thomas Davis
53. DeMaryius Thomas
54. Joe Staley
55. Randy Starks
56. Brandon Mebane
57. Tamba Hali
58. Patrick Peterson
59. Karlos Dansby
60. Drew Brees
61. Donte Whitner
62. Stephen Tulloch
63. Keenan Allen
64. Chris Harris Jr.
65. Aldon Smith
66. Jason Hatcher
67. Larry Warford
68. Von Miller
69. Elvis Dumervil
70. Eddie Lacy
71. Nate Solder
72. Derrick O. Johnson
73. Alshon Jeffery
74. Josh Gordon
75. Joe Haden
76. DeMarco Murray
77. Brian Orakpo
78. Jason Kelce
79. Desmond Trufant
80. Luke Kuechly
81. Sheldon Richardson
82. Alex Mack
83. Michael D. Johnson
84. Tyrann Mathieu
85. Vontaze Burfict
86. Will Hill
87. John Sullivan
88. Trent Cole
89. DeSean Jackson
90. Tom Brady
91. Damon Harrison
92. T.Y. Hilton
93. Alterraun Verner
94. Cliff Avril
95. Troy Polamalu
96. Eric Weddle
97. A.J. Green
98. Phil Loadholt
99. Jake Long
100. T.J. Ward
101. Marques Colston
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1. J.J. Watt
2. Robert Quinn
3. Peyton Manning
4. Gerald McCoy
5. Lavonte David
6. Richard Sherman
7. Evan Mathis
8. Lesean McCoy
9. Andrew Whitworth
10. Marshawn Lynch
11. Jamaal Charles
12. Joe Thomas
13. Jimmy Graham
14. Robert Mathis
15. Trent Williams
16. Michael Bennett
17. Ndamukong Suh
18. Darrelle Revis
19. Calais Campbell
20. Earl Thomas
21. Justin Houston
22. Devin McCourty
23. Brent Grimes
24. Patrick Willis
25. Josh Sitton
26. Kyle D. Williams
27. Jurrell Casey
28. Kam Chancellor
29. Marcell Dareus
30. Dontari Poe
31. NaVorro Bowman
32. Brandon Marshall
33. Antonio Brown
34. Jason Peters
35. Calvin Johnson
36. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
37. Eric Berry
38. Adrian L. Peterson
39. Jordy Nelson
40. Cameron Jordan
41. Greg Hardy
42. Jordan Gross
43. Philip Rivers
44. Tyron Smith
45. Louis Vasquez
46. Cameron Wake
47. Anquan Boldin
48. Russell Wilson
49. Keenan Lewis
50. Terrance Knighton
51. Andre Johnson
52. Thomas Davis
53. DeMaryius Thomas
54. Joe Staley
55. Randy Starks
56. Brandon Mebane
57. Tamba Hali
58. Patrick Peterson
59. Karlos Dansby
60. Drew Brees
61. Donte Whitner
62. Stephen Tulloch
63. Keenan Allen
64. Chris Harris Jr.
65. Aldon Smith
66. Jason Hatcher
67. Larry Warford
68. Von Miller
69. Elvis Dumervil
70. Eddie Lacy
71. Nate Solder
72. Derrick O. Johnson
73. Alshon Jeffery
74. Josh Gordon
75. Joe Haden
76. DeMarco Murray
77. Brian Orakpo
78. Jason Kelce
79. Desmond Trufant
80. Luke Kuechly
81. Sheldon Richardson
82. Alex Mack
83. Michael D. Johnson
84. Tyrann Mathieu
85. Vontaze Burfict
86. Will Hill
87. John Sullivan
88. Trent Cole
89. DeSean Jackson
90. Tom Brady
91. Damon Harrison
92. T.Y. Hilton
93. Alterraun Verner
94. Cliff Avril
95. Troy Polamalu
96. Eric Weddle
97. A.J. Green
98. Phil Loadholt
99. Jake Long
100. T.J. Ward
101. Marques Colston
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 1:56 am to TDawg1313
Seems weird. Is Colston really still good enough to make that list?
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:01 am to BayouBengals03
There's a few I don't agree with. I don't really have a problem with Colston being included, but I'd imagine that there's a lot of players left off of the list that you could definitely make an argument for.
Here's what they had to say about Colston...
Here's what they had to say about Colston...
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One of the least-publicized top-quality receivers in the league, Colston is still an incredibly productive weapon even with the toll eight years can take on a big-bodied receiver operating significantly out of the slot. A fantastic option over the middle (throughout the year he caught 62 of his 88 passes between the numbers), he consistently moves the chain in New Orleans.
Best Performance: Week 14, CAR @ NO, +4.8
Key Stat: Finished the year with the fifth highest amount of yards of any wide receiver from the slot (590) while also finishing fourth in that area with five touchdowns.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:01 am to TDawg1313
No way you can accurately rank players at different positions
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:12 am to TDawg1313
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9. Andrew Whitworth
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26. Kyle D. Williams
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58. Patrick Peterson
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84. Tyrann Mathieu
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:13 am to TDawg1313
This is where the aggregation of advanced metrics can be a bad thing.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:14 am to Jack Daniel
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but what I believe they do is they essentially have a rating system where they are scored based on how they perform versus others at their same position. So when comparing overall, they use that as a guideline to see how dominant they were for their position, but not necessarily how valuable they were compared to players at other positions. They don't take into account the different values each position has.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:18 am to TDawg1313
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1. J.J. Watt
why is he number 1
russell wilson should be number 1.
kid is crazy good and doesnt get enough respect
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 2:18 am
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:19 am to BayouBengals03
colston is a solid top 100 player imo
wow...im surprised he made it to 29
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29. Marcell Dareus
wow...im surprised he made it to 29
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 2:20 am
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:23 am to gnarkill1529
Solid troll attempt, but Wilson is one of the rankings I don't agree with. I'd bump him down into the bottom 25% of the list somewhere. I think they put a strong emphasis on efficiency and yards per attempt and not necessarily volume statistics in regards to Wilson.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:39 am to TDawg1313
ok he might not should be 1 but as low as they have him, he was integral to leading his team to a super bowl win...he did well against the broncos d that was very good all year. granted his defense was superb against the broncos in the super bowl...i just feel he doesnt get enough respect for him being a smart and effecient QB
what other metric should be used besides efficiency?
what other metric should be used besides efficiency?
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 2:49 am
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:33 am to TDawg1313
I love PFF...
Colston is the man....had a pretty nice second game against the Seahawks (in a loss)
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I don't really have a problem with Colston being included,
Colston is the man....had a pretty nice second game against the Seahawks (in a loss)
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:35 am to TDawg1313
Russell Wilson being in the top 50 devalues this list a ton.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:38 am to BayouBengals03
seriously? the QB who won the super bowl shouldnt be in the top 50? sure he isnt peyton or brees or even rodgers but good god the guy is as smart as all three put together and doesnt make many mistakes on the field...so he doesnt throw for 50 and 5000 every other year...does that make him any less valuable to his team? no
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:47 am to gnarkill1529
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seriously? the QB who won the super bowl shouldnt be in the top 50?
Yes.
According to this list, he's the third best quarterback in the league.
He's maybe a top 10 quarterback.
Then again, this list has Calvin Johnson at 35. Overall, it's a shitty arse list that relies too much on some stupid formulas or fancy stats.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:53 am to BayouBengals03
would you have R. Wilson in the top 100?
and besides peyton, brees, rodgers and brady who would you put ahead of him?
and besides peyton, brees, rodgers and brady who would you put ahead of him?
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 3:54 am
Posted on 5/17/14 at 4:21 am to TDawg1313
quote:
1. Not Matt Ryan
List is bullsthit.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 4:52 am to TDawg1313
quote:
92. T.Y. Hilton
97. A. J. Green
Also, Luke too low.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:32 am to TDawg1313
Dez Bryant had a better season than some of the WR on that list.
How does a WR who plays with a 5k+ QB and doesn't break 1,000 yards or 10 TD make this list over a guy with 1200 yards and 13 TD?
I see his explanation for Colston, I just don't really follow.
How does a WR who plays with a 5k+ QB and doesn't break 1,000 yards or 10 TD make this list over a guy with 1200 yards and 13 TD?
I see his explanation for Colston, I just don't really follow.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 8:22 am to TexasTiger1185
Colston only dropped 3 catchable balls out of 78 attempts last year. Which is near the top of the league in rate.
PFF is awesome. They don't just use traditional stats to rank players. Blocking and other scenarios are factored as well.
PFF is awesome. They don't just use traditional stats to rank players. Blocking and other scenarios are factored as well.
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 8:25 am
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