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PC rant.... It's time we had this discussion.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:47 am
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:47 am
I read this today. I wonder how many here agree with this. Just up vote or down vote based on if you agree or not.
THis is a small portion, and I hope you read the whole article before voting and commenting.
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THis is a small portion, and I hope you read the whole article before voting and commenting.
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You don’t get to have it both ways. You can tell me that your sexuality is nobody’s business — what you do in your bedroom is between you and whoever you do it with — and I’ll agree. I’ve never taken it upon myself to approach a group of strangers and survey them about their carnal propensities. In my life, I’ve probably had thousands of conversations with thousands of different people. Of those thousands, I can safely say that not once have I begun the exchange by saying, “Hello, my name is Matt. Do you sleep with people of the same gender?”
Seriously, that’s never happened. OK, maybe I can’t say never, but rarely. The point is, I usually don’t grab strangers by their shirt collars and demand that they paint me a vivid portrait of their erotic activities.
Your sexuality is none of my business, right? Yes. Fine. Sounds good to me.
But this “none of my business” shtick is a two way street, friend. What exactly does it mean for a thing to be “none of my business” when you’re holding a press conference and proclaiming it to the entire world?
“Hey, this is personal, man. That’s why I’m throwing a parade, alerting the media, issuing a press release, having t-shirts printed, and booking an interview on 20/20.”
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Personal business. You keep using that phrase. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Michael Sam, apparently, ‘came out’ to his teammates a year ago. By all accounts, they took it well, nobody really cared, and everything continued on as normal. Sam wasn’t hiding in fear and he wasn’t being forced to suppress or disguise anything. But then, mere months before the draft, he decided to declare himself to ESPN and the New York Times.
I remember seeing this headline back in February: “Michael Sam Announces He’s Gay”
My first thought: OK, was anybody asking?
The man pursued national media outlets and, without being provoked or solicited, ‘announced’ his sexual desires to the nation. Why? Because it’s none of our business? Because we should feel nothing and have no opinion on the matter?
No, of course not. We are supposed to feel something, and we are supposed to have an opinion, but they must be the right feelings and the right opinions.
That’s the point here.
If you simply wish to be accepted, perhaps you’d discuss these private details with those closest to you. If you wish to be celebrated, you throw yourself a party and call the press.
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Plenty of people have already said it, but it’s true that many of the Michael Sam cheerleaders are hypocrites of the lowest sort. Say what you will about Tim Tebow; one thing you can’t deny is that the dude was told loudly, harshly, and frequently, to ‘keep his religion to himself.’ Football isn’t a place for religion, they said.
But football is a place for sexual identity discussions?
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As I type this, I see that Michael Sam has already started starring in ads, making him, I’m assuming, the first 7th round pick to ever get an endorsement deal before training camp even starts.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:50 am to darkhorse
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As I type this, I see that Michael Sam has already started starring in ads, making him, I’m assuming, the first 7th round pick to ever get an endorsement deal before training camp even starts.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:51 am to darkhorse
Way too much logic there...
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:51 am to darkhorse
quote:This is 100% true.
If you simply wish to be accepted, perhaps you’d discuss these private details with those closest to you. If you wish to be celebrated, you throw yourself a party and call the press.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:53 am to NC_Tigah
I think this is a huge issue. It's really not about Sam, but the whole process.
The double standards, the "it's none of your business but I'm putting it out there" etc.
Like the guy who had to attend the classes because of his tweet. Seriously? You can't have an opinion on anything? Yet you are putting it out there for that very reason.
The double standards, the "it's none of your business but I'm putting it out there" etc.
Like the guy who had to attend the classes because of his tweet. Seriously? You can't have an opinion on anything? Yet you are putting it out there for that very reason.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:58 am to darkhorse
Dude you haven't figured it out yet? "Personal business" is a smoke screen.
This is about others forcing you to think the way they think by way of peer pressure and media pressure.
Michael Sam is a pawn.
This is about others forcing you to think the way they think by way of peer pressure and media pressure.
Michael Sam is a pawn.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:58 am to darkhorse
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I remember seeing this headline back in February: “Michael Sam Announces He’s Gay”
My first thought: OK, was anybody asking?
According to Sam's friends, yes people were asking.
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The man pursued national media outlets and, without being provoked or solicited, ‘announced’ his sexual desires to the nation. Why?
He said why he did. It's his life story and he wanted to control the narrative of it. He got out in front of it before some prying journalist outted him.
Didn't read past that as it's clear the writer is more interested in spreading his own agenda than actually knowing the facts of Michael Sam's story.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:01 am to darkhorse
People will forget who Michael Sam is in a year or so. We are creatures of habit and the media has opted to blow this whole story out of proportion - and MS jumped on the opp to make some $$.
Despite what people think, the media has trained just about everyone in what should/shouldn't be considered quality news.
Despite what people think, the media has trained just about everyone in what should/shouldn't be considered quality news.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:02 am to darkhorse
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one thing you can’t deny is that the dude was told loudly, harshly, and frequently, to ‘keep his religion to himself.’
Who said that?
One thing is for sure. I'm sick to hell of all these straight people flaunting their sexuality.
Maybe....just maybe Michael Sam didn't want to get drafted by a team with a homophobic owner. One way to ensure that is to announce you're gay. Then you're almost guaranteed to be drafted by an organization that will treat you fairly.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 11:04 am
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:03 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Michael Sam is a pawn.
This is correct.
I suspect he was pressured into this whole ordeal by the gay community. I'm sure they told him this was about more than just him, but rather about an entire group of people. Part of him wants to be known just for his skills but, no matter what he says, I'm sure he is enjoying the publicity in regards to his sexual preferences. One doesn't put on a display like he did during the draft if they want to be known strictly for their athleticism.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:05 am to upgrayedd
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One doesn't put on a display like he did during the draft if they want to be known strictly for their athleticism.
That's nothing. THIS guy has sex with TROPHIES
Ewww! Man on trophy sex! Disgusting!!!
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:05 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Michael Sam is a pawn.
speaking of, what's sandra fluke up to these days?
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:07 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:That isn't true and, due to the design of that trophy, it isn't physically possible.
THIS guy has sex with TROPHIES
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:07 am to The Spleen
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Didn't read past that as it's clear the writer is more interested in spreading his own agenda than actually knowing the facts of Michael Sam's story.
That's the issue Spleen. And you are playing right into it rather than having a discussion that leads to an answer.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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speaking of, what's sandra fluke up to these days?
She's probably up to being demonized by the right.
Man on trophy sex seems to be problem across the NFL.
What is frightening is the shameless public display of this sort of sexuality.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:07 am to Scruffy
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That isn't true and, due to the design of that trophy, it isn't physically possible.
Not if you have a big enough tube of KY.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:08 am to darkhorse
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PC rant
PC >>>>>>>>>>> MAC
Oh wait...
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:08 am to darkhorse
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“Hey, this is personal, man. That’s why I’m throwing a parade, alerting the media, issuing a press release, having t-shirts printed, and booking an interview on 20/20.”
Man, Sam is going to make a butt load of money.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:08 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:Again, not physically possible. You must not be very educated, huh?
Man on trophy sex seems to be problem across the NFL.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:09 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:It isn't physically possible because there is no hole in the trophy in which to have sex.
Not if you have a big enough tube of KY.
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