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re: Van Gundy In, Monroe Out

Posted on 5/14/14 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 2:49 pm to
I didn't think this needed it's own thread, but saw this looking for more Monroe/Van Gundy info.

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To that end, I'm told Hollins is going to bring on a respected offensive mind as an assistant. No doubt, the Warriors would want to approve, but one name being linked to Hollins as an offensive-guru assistant is Paul Westphal. San Jose Mercury-News


I haven't been very interested in Hollins because I view him as not much different than Monty, defense first, slow pace, anti analytics, but if he'd be willing to bring in a big name assistant to run the offense sign me up.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 2:49 pm to
Aren't there rumors that he's bringing back otis smith(who was GM in ORL when both were there)?

He might be dumb enough to take EG

My question though:

Would monroe play practically full time at the 5?

We have Ryno as well
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 2:50 pm to
Trade ryno, re-sign morrow
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 2:53 pm to
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Aren't there rumors that he's bringing back otis smith


Steve Kyler who covers the Magic for Basketball Insiders was tweeting that yesterday.

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He might be dumb enough to take EG


If SVG is bringing in Otis Smith, I'm sure it's to do the grunt work. SVG would probably have veto power if he's head of basketball operations, although I'm not sure how much input SVG had in personnel before, maybe he was complicit in the mismanaging in Orlando.

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Would monroe play practically full time at the 5?
I don't think positions matter other than it's unlikely you'd play Monroe, AD, and Anderson at the same time. You'd have to choose just 2 of the 3 for the Finishing 5. Which is another reason paying him near max money doesn't make sense for the Pelicans.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 2:54 pm to
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Trade ryno, re-sign morrow


I don't know why people think these 2 are interchangeable pieces just because they are both good 3 point shooters. Ryno creates 7-8 3 point attempts per game out of thin air. Morrow takes the shots that created by Monty's offense, which aren't many.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 2:55 pm to
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don't think positions matter other than it's unlikely you'd play Monroe, AD, and Anderson at the same time. You'd have to choose just 2 of the 3 for the Finishing 5. Which is another reason paying him near max money doesn't make sense for the Pelicans.



Yeah that's why this whole thing is far fetched

There's a good shot of him staying in DET
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 3:03 pm to
I think he stays. But if for some insane reason they took Gordon for Monroe (let's say Gordon + 2015 1st for Monroe)...We would still have room including the MLE to make things work.

And our lineup was:

Jrue
Reke
Ariza
AD
Monroe

Ryno
Rivers
Morrow
Ajinca

Not even Monty can frick that up. Not even close to happening though, pipe dream.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 3:06 pm to
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Not even Monty can frick that up.


Famous last words.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 3:08 pm to
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Famous last words.



I'd like to see it, regardless.
Posted by Diddles
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 3:13 pm to
Greg Monroe would be a dream
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 3:26 pm to
Unfortunately, Ariza probably isn't coming with how Washington is playing.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 3:31 pm to
I was really just using him as a placeholder "3&D" SF.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 3:52 pm to
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Unfortunately, Ariza probably isn't coming with how Washington is playing.


Martell Webster may be available as a trade, though, if the Wizards re-sign Ariza and have plans for Otto Porter in the future.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 4:21 pm to
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I don't know why people think these 2 are interchangeable pieces just because they are both good 3 point shooters. Ryno creates 7-8 3 point attempts per game out of thin air. Morrow takes the shots that created by Monty's offense, which aren't many.


Not inter changeable at all. But to get something you have to give. Morrow would help space the floor and it wouldn't exactly be a chore to find him minutes like it would Anderson if we brought in another capable post player.

Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 4:27 pm to
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Not inter changeable at all. But to get something you have to give. Morrow would help space the floor and it wouldn't exactly be a chore to find him minutes like it would Anderson if we brought in another capable post player


I agree with this for the most part. Anderson is definitely a unique player who can push an offense, but Morrow may provide spacing while allowing you to build a more balanced roster. None of us are making the decisions, though. We just have to hope like hell that Demps' moves this offseason are more coherent.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:14 pm to
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allowing Van Gundy to address the big weakness on his team—perimeter shooting, a vital aspect of Van Gundy’s offensive approach. The Pistons shot 32.1 percent from the 3-point line, which was 29th in the league last season.


Sounds like they'd want Ryno. I'd love it if we could trade Gordon for Monroe straight up.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:19 pm to
I like Anderson on the team, but if they moved Gordon in a package with him. It would give considerable FA money and you could start

Holiday
Evans
SF FA
Davis
Monroe

All the players would be locked up for 3-4 seasons.

Detroit would then have

Jennings
Gordon
Smith
Anderson
Drummond

It seems like a win-win. I think the Pelicans could maybe squeeze a little more out for their side though since Gordon and Anderson are young solid starters. Having the extra money in FA could be huge though.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 10:45 pm
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:51 pm to
I don't think you could do Gordon and Anderson for Monroe because of salaries. I'm also not sure that Monroe is what this team needs.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:04 pm to
Shouldn't Detroit have plenty of cap room? So wouldn't they be able to take more salary back.

I really don't like giving up Anderson; however, if we ended up with 10+ million in cap space and Monroe that would be legit.

The other thing to consider is will Anderson be able to pass a physical.

This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 11:07 pm
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