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8 Valedictorians - good or bad thing?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:42 am
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:42 am
Northshore High in the 'dell had 8 Valedictorians this year. Same when my kids graduated a few years back. I find this a little ridiculous. I'm assuming everyone had straight A's all four years for this to occur. While it is a big school, and it's great that kids are doing well, I think they are handing out A's too freely if 8 kids make it through 4 years unscathed. They put up good scholarship numbers ($11 million), and the school has put up impressive numbers with National Merit Finalists, but I just find 8 Valedictorians disturbing. I went to Holy Cross in the early 80s, and the teachers there damn sure knew how to challenge us.
I see the same thing happening with grades in my kid's middle school. For example, my kid is in 8th grade honors algebra. This week they have to paint a picture of a stained glass window utilizing certain angles, and it counts as two full test grades. It's an easy bs project to boost grades. Likewise, another class he has routinely hands out irrelevant projects that usually involve crayons, and any kid with a pulse gets an A on these. Sometimes I think he is first grade again. Is "grade boosting" a trend?
I see the same thing happening with grades in my kid's middle school. For example, my kid is in 8th grade honors algebra. This week they have to paint a picture of a stained glass window utilizing certain angles, and it counts as two full test grades. It's an easy bs project to boost grades. Likewise, another class he has routinely hands out irrelevant projects that usually involve crayons, and any kid with a pulse gets an A on these. Sometimes I think he is first grade again. Is "grade boosting" a trend?
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 9:44 am
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:43 am to 911Moto
Welcome to 2014 where everyone is a winner now.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:44 am to 911Moto
you cant handle the truth
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:45 am to 911Moto
My class had 9 and 27 national merit AMDG
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:45 am to YouAre8Up
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Welcome to 2014 where everyone is a winner now.
So 2014 is just like the past 30 years.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:45 am to 911Moto
Geez, 8 speeches? Makes me glad I went to Salmen.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:46 am to 911Moto
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I think they are handing out A's too freely if 8 kids make it through 4 years unscathed.
what were their ACT scores?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:46 am to 911Moto
Dumb. My school had one valedictorian and one salutatorian (yours truly) and that was it.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:47 am to 911Moto
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8 Valedictorians - good or bad thing?
I personally believe that the dumb fricker who graduates with the lowest GPA should be showered with scholarships and all the recognition.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:47 am to 911Moto
Jesuit has a ridiculous amount of valedictorians every year. If they got the same grades all four years in the toughest classes I don't see the harm in having that many.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:47 am to CurDog
Horrible idea.
My high school gave out number grades (0-100) just to prevent this from happening. For outside reporting purposes, the grades were converted (94-100 "A", 86-93 "B", etc.), but on your report card you got a number. We had one valedictorian and one salutatorian. And, they were the two smartest kids in the class and deserved the honor.
My high school gave out number grades (0-100) just to prevent this from happening. For outside reporting purposes, the grades were converted (94-100 "A", 86-93 "B", etc.), but on your report card you got a number. We had one valedictorian and one salutatorian. And, they were the two smartest kids in the class and deserved the honor.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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what were their ACT scores?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:48 am to 911Moto
I had 8 I'm my graduating class at Jesuit 10 years ago
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:48 am to jmarto1
I had about that many when I graduated as well. School had about 500-600 kids per year though. That was over 15 years ago.
They try to make it harder for there to be that many by using higher GPA numbers for AP classes, so the kids who don't take AP don't even have a shot at it. There is only so much you can do if all the smart kids all take the same amount of AP classes and all get A's.
They try to make it harder for there to be that many by using higher GPA numbers for AP classes, so the kids who don't take AP don't even have a shot at it. There is only so much you can do if all the smart kids all take the same amount of AP classes and all get A's.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 9:49 am
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:48 am to 911Moto
My school would only allow one Valedictorian so they started using weighted classes, standardized testing, and ACT scores to narrow it down until the runner-up one year got mad and sued the school.
Now there's no Valedictorian.
Now there's no Valedictorian.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:50 am to ThePoo
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I had 8 I'm my graduating class at Jesuit 10 years ago
'03 or 4?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:50 am to 911Moto
Did they have an 8 way tie or something? I thought by definition the valedictorian was the student that ranked #1 in that class.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:52 am to Dam Guide
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There is only so much you can do if all the smart kids all take the same amount of AP classes and all get A's.
pretty much this
kids are getting smarter. people just refuse to admit it. Flynn Effect...science, bitch
for all this talk about easy classes, this doesn't explain the sharp jump in AP classes the past 15 years
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:52 am to Darth_Vader
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Did they have an 8 way tie or something? I thought by definition the valedictorian was the student that ranked #1 in that class.
In my case, it was a multiple way tie. Every kid got straight A's and took the same amount of AP classes to get the higher weighted GPA.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 9:52 am
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:52 am to Darth_Vader
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I thought by definition the valedictorian was the student that ranked #1 in that class.
if 8 kids took every AP class and made straight As their entire career, they'd all rank #1
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