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Compensatory picks nfl bias?

Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:42 am
Posted by Tigerfan53
Death Valley
Member since Nov 2010
3105 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:42 am
Anyone else feel like other teams always get them and saints never do ? Discuss
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166087 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:43 am to
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Anyone else feel like other teams always get them and saints never do ? Discuss


its definitely an intriguing thought when you have 2 players hit free agency. 1 was cut and the other's contract just ran out. Sign the one that was cut and it doesn't affect your compensatory pick compensation. definitely something that should kept in mind.
Posted by 4thandinches
River Ridge
Member since Apr 2012
2395 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:47 am to
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Discuss


Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:01 am to
I really have no clue what the formula is. All I can say is that we don't sit on our hands in free agency, and it's been the reason why we haven't gotten them.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6325 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:56 am to
I forget who, but someone in the media gets the compensatory pick formula right every year. If they are indeed following a formula, then there is no bias. I do think there is an argument that the current formula is in need of a revamp though. To me, given the current measurable, the Saints method of addressing free agency head-on is much preferred than relying on the draft anyway.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32853 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:20 am to
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the Saints method of addressing free agency head-on is much preferred than relying on the draft anyway.


This.

We also seem to try to trade players for picks before free agency. (ie Reggie Bush and Darren Sproles) I kind of consider those our compensatory picks.
Posted by JPLIII
Broussard - terd supporter
Member since Jan 2008
22630 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:21 am to
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Compensatory picks nfl bias?
Anyone else feel like other teams always get them and saints never do ? Discuss



Who did we miss out on that is stressing you?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30080 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:25 am to
Past couple of years, I think its the fact we lose players, but we also sign big names to offset the loss.

Nicks -> Grubbs (nicks gets injured)
Bushrod -> Lewis (starter for starter)
Ellis -> didn't stick

Could be wrong though

Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:16 pm to
There is no bias. It's somewhat complex formula based on variables such as contract signed, playing time, age, etc. The only potential for bias comes in the fact that the formula is secret but it's been basically deciphered by a few people.

The Saints have gotten better or comparable players that last few years in free agency and thus haven't gotten compensatory picks. We likely won't get one next year either.

Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11849 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:07 pm to
It is an antiquated system that should go away. Why reward teams who make a conscious decision not to sign their own free agents?
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:30 pm to
The first part of the system (determining if you even get a pick and how many) is super easy.

If you sign the same or more UFAs (not counting cut players or RFAs that didn't get tendered) than teams sign from your eligible pool, you get zero picks.

If you sign less you get 1 pick for every player less(to a point, maybe 5 max?).

That's the easy part and why we never get them. It's our plan to do it that way as we prefer the known over the unknown.

So if you want to get mad about it, blame Payton and Loomis.

Now the trickier part is determining round. But being we never shoot for them we don't have to worry about that.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:58 pm to
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To me, given the current measurable, the Saints method of addressing free agency head-on is much preferred than relying on the draft anyway.



I agree.

If the NFL wasn't correctly following a formula, I would think someone in the organization would leak that to one the "crack" reporters covering the team.
Posted by TheFreakyRobber
Member since Sep 2011
1943 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:19 pm to
No. There is no bias. Please just stop with all the conspiracy theories.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166087 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:23 pm to
There's always bias.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:24 pm to
Yeah, someone here is biased towards trolling.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166087 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:29 pm to
I only posts facts man
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:40 pm to
Alright Lester.
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