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So who do you blame when *5 stars go undrafted?

Posted on 5/12/14 at 6:09 am
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54453 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 6:09 am
The individuals themselves,coaching?

We had 2 this year, FREAK and Craig Loston.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 6:11 am
Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3562 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 6:11 am to
The player. If the same coach develops a 3 star and put him in the league but a more talented 5 star doesn't make it, you can't blame the coach.
Posted by jrowla2
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
4071 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 6:14 am to
Injuries on lostons part.

Freak shouldn't have left early and clearly didn't impress any team with his play or personality. He was given every opportunity to succeed and fell flat, that's on him, not the coaches.
Posted by GeauxLSU95
Member since Aug 2011
647 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 6:15 am to
The "freak" peaked in high school, imo and he also failed a drug test.

Loston has trouble with staying healthy.
Posted by RollTigers
Member since Dec 2010
3274 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 6:27 am to
You can't make a blanket statement about an entire group of players like that. Johnson was given bad advice to leave early (apparently) and was apparently not known for being a hard worker. This combined with a drug red flag explain his not being drafted. Loston had injuries and simply never developed into the player that it looked like he had the potential to be. It's hard to say if that's on him, the coaches, or no one at all.


Five stars can be complete busts even if they and the coaches work really hard. Russell Shepard, Shon Coleman, Chris Galippo, Jeff Schweiger, Marcus Vick, Ben Olsen, Ryan Rerriloux... all these guys were busts and for lots of different reasons. Some worked hard and did the right things and simply were never successful, others were injured, others had bad attitudes.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12817 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 6:58 am to
quote:

when *5 stars go undrafted
that also assumes the recruiting services rated them accurately.

Phd's do stupid shite, NASCAR drivers wreck shite, therapists do become alcoholics, and 3* DB's win Heismans as QB.

Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Freak shouldn't have left early and clearly didn't impress any team with his play or personality.


This and it also took Freak quite a while to mature and start trying. There were always complaints he wasn't pulling his own weight.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93672 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 7:57 am to
Again, I wonder who are the ones that are advising these kids.

Faulk...
Turner...
Thomas...

Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79078 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:07 am to
you can't blame the coaches on this one. both were starters and were given ample opportunities to shine during their time here.
Posted by cajun craig
Humble TX
Member since Jul 2013
233 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:11 am to
Five stars can be complete busts even if they and the coaches work really hard. Russell Shepard, Shon Coleman, Chris Galippo, Jeff Schweiger, Marcus Vick, Ben Olsen, Ryan Rerriloux... all these guys were busts and for lots of different reasons. Some worked hard and did the right things and simply were never successful, others were injured, others had bad attitudes.


"Cecil Collins"
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
5401 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:19 am to
LSU wasn't the only school to have 5*'s go undrafted this year.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79078 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:22 am to
I prolly wouldn't include Shon Coleman on that list
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9091 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:25 am to
Themselves !

The player has to put in the work needed to get to the next level period.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11351 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:33 am to
quote:

So who do you blame when *5 stars go undrafted?


the recruiting service because they overrated the prospect in the first place.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93672 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:35 am to
I'm actually surprised this thread didn't go how the OP wanted it to go and turn into a "Fire Miles" thread.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83509 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:36 am to
do we blame the NFL coaches when a 1st round draft pick flames out?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56155 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:41 am to
about 45%-50% go undrafted, so no big surprise statistically.
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
9482 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:48 am to
quote:

the recruiting service because they overrated the prospect in the first place.


Yep. Just look at Jackson Jeffcoat from Texas.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158711 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:07 am to
quote:

it also took Freak quite a while to mature and start trying.


when did he start doing this?
Posted by tigbit
Member since Jun 2011
2800 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:08 am to
Why blame anyone? We had more players drafted into the NFL than any other NCAA team, for two years in a row. Obviously, LSU players had ample opportunity to show the scouts what they can do.
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