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michael sam; dicriminated against or celebrated
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:14 am
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:14 am
one comentator even said the nfl needed to draft him 'because of the story line'. Seems there is crying in football after all. Should there now be a new stat 'PU' to go along with tackles and sacks for penis use?
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:16 am to KeyserSoze999
Political Board obsession with homosexuals continues.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:17 am to KeyserSoze999
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dicriminated
define this and then I will answer
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:17 am to Tactical1
I wanna know if hes going to be a tight end or a wide receiver
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:22 am to Tactical1
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Political Board obsession with homosexuals continues.
Sam claims he wants to be known as a football player and I believe America is ready to grant him that, but, last night's display when he got drafted says otherwise. It was only about his homosexuality. So, whether he's complicit in it or just the unintended victim of his allies' enthusiasm, I suspect he will merely be known as a homosexual and, sadly, nothing else.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:23 am
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:29 am to Jake88
quote:
Sam claims he wants to be known as a football player and I believe America is ready to grant him that, but, last night's display when he got drafted says otherwise. It was only about his homosexuality. So, whether he's complicit in it or just the unintended victim of his allies' enthusiasm, I suspect he will merely be known as a homosexual and, sadly, nothing else.
Kissing his boyfriend means he doesn't want to be known just as a football player? Should he have re-closeted himself for the cameras?
Like so many things in sports, it will just blow over. Media will hype it, and then everyone will remember that sports is sports and teammates have your back.
I mean, Jason Collins' story just went by just like that.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:30 am to Truckasaurus
He won't even make the roster. He's not that good. Then we can have threads about how he was cut because he was gay.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:32 am to KeyserSoze999
I've been channel surfing sports shows all morning. It's Michael Sam wall to wall all the time.
One woman analyst said that Sam's resume dictated that he should have been picked in the first or second round. Inferring discrimination in his going in the 7th.
Confirms my oft stated axiom... Sports Journalists are Journalists First. Sports comes waaaay down the line.
One woman analyst said that Sam's resume dictated that he should have been picked in the first or second round. Inferring discrimination in his going in the 7th.
Confirms my oft stated axiom... Sports Journalists are Journalists First. Sports comes waaaay down the line.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:34 am to Zach
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One woman analyst said that Sam's resume dictated that he should have been picked in the first or second round. Inferring discrimination in his going in the 7th.
Well, to the masses who know nothing about the combine and measurables, the 7th round selection does seem ridiculous for the reigning SEC Defensive Player of the Year. (I think I saw somewhere the last 5 or so didn't make it past the 17th pick in the draft)
You have to admit that.
ETA: To the draftniks among us, he definitely graded out to 5th round to undrafted, meaning he fell right in that range.
The NFL typically doesn't think highly of undersized defensive ends who are slow, but his production this year warranted him as a potential draft pick.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:37 am
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:34 am to Zach
quote:
Sam's resume dictated that he should have been picked in the first or second round.
quote:Oh, well that makes sense then
woman analyst
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:40 am to Truckasaurus
quote:
Well, to the masses who know nothing about the combine and measurables, the 7th round selection does seem ridiculous for the reigning SEC Defensive Player of the Year. (I think I saw somewhere the last 5 or so didn't make it past the 17th pick in the draft) You have to admit that.
No, I don't.
1. He was not Def Player of the Year. He was "Co-Def player of the year in the SEC".
2. He only played 60% of Missouri's Def. downs because he can't run tackle. He's a pass rusher.
3. He is by every measurable too small to play DE in the NFL.
4. He is too slow to be converted to outside LB (like Barkevious Mingo).
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:44 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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He won't even make the roster. He's not that good. Then we can have threads about how he was cut because he was gay.
The Rams will ensure he makes the practice squad so they are not labeled bigots.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:47 am to Zach
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quote:
Well, to the masses who know nothing about the combine and measurables, the 7th round selection does seem ridiculous for the reigning SEC Defensive Player of the Year. (I think I saw somewhere the last 5 or so didn't make it past the 17th pick in the draft) You have to admit that.
No, I don't.
1. He was not Def Player of the Year. He was "Co-Def player of the year in the SEC".
2. He only played 60% of Missouri's Def. downs because he can't run tackle. He's a pass rusher.
3. He is by every measurable too small to play DE in the NFL.
4. He is too slow to be converted to outside LB (like Barkevious Mingo).
Way to take my comments out of context, Zach. I agreed he was a 5th round to undrafted prospect.
:spank: 1. Defensive POTY vs. Co-Defensive POTY, who gives a shite about this distinction? His co-defensive POTY was drafted in the first round.
2. Once again, who besides draftniks and serious football fans know this?
3. That is exactly what I said in my post.
4. That is exactly what I said in my post.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:49 am to KeyserSoze999
Ultimately gay athletes will get their due just like African Americans. It will just take some time. It's an issue, that while it should be encouraged subtly, it should not be forced. People think these team owners and GM's are vicious racists who can't fathom the thought of a gay guy on their team. This is not true. These teams have millions upon millions tied up as an investment in their rosters. You can't blame them for being cautious about adding a mediocre player with limited upside to their roster who has the chance (albeit a small chance) of harming the locker room chemistry. Ultimately these teams want to win. And once a gay guy with the talent to help them do that at the NFL level comes along, he'll be accepted.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:56 am
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:50 am to Zach
quote:
One woman analyst said that Sam's resume dictated that he should have been picked in the first or second round. Inferring discrimination in his going in the 7th.
Because his 4.91 40 and 25" vertical is so attractive.
I swear, give me 3 months to train and I can beat these metrics and I'm 47. Those are terrible numbers.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:51 am to Tactical1
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Political Board obsession with homosexuals continues.
No more so than the media itself. What was he, seventh to the last pick made? His pick was announced at the podium which is a rare event for a last round draft choice.
I'd say there was definitely an agenda there to glorify the moment that he received special treatment because of his sexual orientation.
The fact that he's gay - fine. The fact that he got extra exposure for his pick because of it - not so fine.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:53 am to tysonslefthook
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:55 am to KeyserSoze999
Be Gay, be happy about it, just shut the hell up about it. All the time, everybody, everyday. I DO NOT CARE.
Attention seeking.
Attention seeking.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:59 am to Truckasaurus
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Truckasaurus
Fixed. I guess this just shows how much the average football fan cares about the issue. I just don't think it's nearly as big of a deal as the media and activist make it. And to be honest I don't feel right comparing it to the color barrier in major sports. Because honestly, how many gay athletes are there? African Americans were/are a huge population that was being shunned. There just aren't that many gay athletes. It's NOT a major issue.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:59 am to Truckasaurus
The fact that he's now a RAM is so poetic.
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