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New construction AC suggestions

Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:22 am
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:22 am
3,100 sq ft heated total
450 upstairs

(2) 3.5 ton for down stairs, 1.5 ton for upstairs bonus room

5 ton down left side and upstairs bonus room, 3 ton right side

5 ton down stairs , 1.5 ton for upstairs


Price range is from 8500-10k on three options.

Any pros on here with some knowledge?
TIA

Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:25 am to
1 ton per 500 sq ft is all you need. Anything else is a waste.

What sort of insulation? Foam, fiberglass, cellulose, batting?

Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:27 am to
Foam
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25726 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:28 am to
Depends on the insulation. I have about 300 more total sq and I have a 3 ton system downstairs and a 2 ton system up (18 seer). And I would have gone 1.5 for upstairs but it wasn't available in a 1/2 ton interval for 18 SEER. FYI the house is foamed.
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 11:37 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:29 am to
You can usually cut your required A/C size down a ton or so with foam.

This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 10:31 am
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:52 am to
If that's the case the 5 and 1.5 would suffice.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:55 am to
You don't need the 5 downstairs. Way too much especially with foam.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:01 am to
So the (2)3.5s best bet?

Two thermostats so you can obv set accordingly.
I've had two guys tell me they'd go that route.

It's most expensive but prob most efficient.
Posted by Malaysian Tiger
Manila
Member since May 2008
4732 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:04 am to
When I had a house it was over 3000 sq.ft. and I had a 3 and 2.5. The A/C was split with the 2.5 supplying the 4 Bedrooms and this was always ok. In the other part of the House had a Big Great Room with a Vaulted Ceiling and a very large Dining Area, Kitchen, and Small Dining Area off the Kitchen. The 3 just never seemed to be enough on hot days. I had changed everything out once when the old systems was about 20 years old and the 3 should have been a 4 or at least a 3.5. I had 3 bids at the time and one of the bidders told me that and I should have gone with him. I went with York at the time it and was good. Good Luck!!!
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:04 am to
ETA: I read that wrong
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 11:08 am
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:07 am to
No reason to get snippy, I didn't come up with theses options, AC guy did.
I wasn't sure what was best, that's why I asked... I have no preconceived notions of what best.

Thanks for advice though.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79609 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:08 am to
quote:

1 ton per 500 sq ft is all you need.


For residential design, this is always the standard I've followed.
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 11:09 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:08 am to
Read my edit. I read it wrong.

My bad

2 3.5 tons would probably be sufficient.

This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 11:09 am
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:09 am to
Thanks bro
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3789 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:11 am to
Without getting into the sizing, multiple split units is my recommendation. I have one 5 ton for one story, and hate it. Wish I would have split it.
Posted by BruslyTiger
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:15 am to
Don't let them place you ducts or unit in the attic where it can super great it.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:17 am to
Also make them put the ducts at the back of the rooms so the air doesn't just go straight out of the room to the return air.

I have seen A/C guys do this to save on duct work and you will end up with a room you can never cool correctly.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69047 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:19 am to
quote:

1 ton per 500 sq ft is all you need. Anything else is a waste.

What sort of insulation? Foam, fiberglass, cellulose, batting?




This but I have and addition that the 5 ton unit just wasn't getting to, so I got a used Mr. Slim system and I like that. So now finally my game room and laundry room aren't hot as shite.
Posted by ktc227992
Member since Nov 2011
210 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:29 am to
If your ac guy is using that much tonnage for foam do not use him hire some one that knows what they are doing!
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69047 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:43 am to
quote:

ducts or unit in the attic


I want to re-do my duscts as well.
I have celluose insulation between the ceiling and attic. Then plywood, then not a damn thing between the OSB from the roof and the attic. It's like 120* in there, and my ducts run up there but in the cellulose.

Foam is just so expensive, and I'm a DIY type, I hate paying people to do something on the house.
I was looking at the foil insulation and may do that.
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