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Yes Hazard really said it
Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:22 am
Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:22 am
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Dude should also point the finger at himself as well, maybe he has some growing up to do.
Talk about butt hurt
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Eden Hazard said Chelsea struggle when they are unable to play on the counter-attack, telling beIN Sports after their Champions League exit the team is “not made to play football.”
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“Chelsea is not made to play football. We're good on the counter, a little bit like Real against Bayern.”
Dude should also point the finger at himself as well, maybe he has some growing up to do.
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Hazard was twice guilty of defensive lapses in moves that led to two of Atletico's goals, but the Belgian bemoaned a lack of assistance whn trying to turn the tie around.
Talk about butt hurt
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Liverpool's Spanish defender Jose Enrique tweeted several times during the match. He wrote "Vamos! Vamos!" after Atletico's equaliser, before adding "Yes!" when they took the lead. After the result he was more damning of Chelsea's performance. This is what happens when you don't play football......
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:40 am to StraightCashHomey21
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This is what happens when you don't play football......
Considering the last time Enrique was listed in the 18 for a game, he shouldn't be talking.
But I think that raises a good point - how easy is it for teams to make huge switches tactically. Can you go from parking the bus one game to needing to score the next, and back and forth again and again without it taking its toll?
Is Chelsea's problem really down to two aging strikers not being as good anymore or because its hard to suddenly turn on the offense?
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 6:48 am
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:51 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Liverpool's Spanish defender Jose Enrique
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This is what happens when you don't play football...
2-0?
GFY
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:18 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Hazard
Paris bound
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:33 am to Draconian Sanctions
For 100 mil they can have him.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:23 am to RandySavage
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2-0?
GFY
yawn, predictable. Clearly Gerrard slipping and gifting a goal was because Chelsea were playing excellent football.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:35 am to Jumbeauxlaya
Why is it when Real Madrid play defensive/counter attacking football against Bayern it's brilliant but anytime Chelsea are involved we have to talk about a bus and in Brendan Rodger's case 2 buses?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:44 am to nickhole5
Did you watch both Real games and the Chelsea/Pool game?
Did you really not see a difference in how they were applied? Real still attacked. Real didn't pull 10 players behind the ball constantly. Real didn't just punt it forward with no intent. Real amazingly wasn't even in the same league with time wasting.
And frankly, the biggest difference is how Jose rails against those same tactics and calls them 19th century football when they are applied against him. The dude is a clown and troll when it comes to the media, and pays for it (not really, he could care less) when it comes to public opinion of him by non-his-team fans.
He's also brilliant, but thats another thread.
Did you really not see a difference in how they were applied? Real still attacked. Real didn't pull 10 players behind the ball constantly. Real didn't just punt it forward with no intent. Real amazingly wasn't even in the same league with time wasting.
And frankly, the biggest difference is how Jose rails against those same tactics and calls them 19th century football when they are applied against him. The dude is a clown and troll when it comes to the media, and pays for it (not really, he could care less) when it comes to public opinion of him by non-his-team fans.
He's also brilliant, but thats another thread.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:46 am to nickhole5
There's a difference between countering and parking the bus. Real has a pretty German style of countering that is fun to watch and incredibly effective with those kinds of athletes.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:47 am to nickhole5
Don´t confuse bunkering and seeing what ´falls´, with a proper counter attacking side.
I´m not over the moon with RMs style personally, but I damned sure wouldn´t equate what Mourinho does with what RM does.
I´m not over the moon with RMs style personally, but I damned sure wouldn´t equate what Mourinho does with what RM does.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:49 am to Jumbeauxlaya
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yawn, predictable. Clearly Gerrard slipping and gifting a goal was because Chelsea were playing excellent football
Chelsea were playing excellent defensive football, Gerrard made a mistake (the "slip" was after he let the ball run under his foot) and Chelsea capitalized. Just like Hazard made a mistake not tracking his man and Eto'o fouling in a situation where there was no threat to goal and Atleti capitalized. Liverpool nor Chelsea had an answer to their mistakes and the team that deserved to win both games won.
It's just hilarious a player on a team who just lost 2-0 would say something like that, especially when the situation didn't even apply to the game he was talking about.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:58 am to RandySavage
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It's just hilarious a player on a team who just lost 2-0 would say something like that, especially when the situation didn't even apply to the game he was talking about.
It's not hilarious. It makes perfect sense. The "2-0" really has nothing to do with it.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:59 am to Tigerstark
I’m talking about the tactics not how great some Real Madrid players are. If Chelsea had 31% of the ball, scored 2 set piece goals and 2 on a ruthless counter all the talk about be about parking the bus. But, the reality is their strategy vs Bayern was no different than Chelsea when they defend first and attack second. Real Madrid may look better implementing this strategy because they have more technical players but that’s not the point. Carlo wins 4-0 with 31% possession and he’s a genius. Jose does this and he is killing the sport.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:09 am to nickhole5
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Carlo wins 4-0 with 31% possession and he’s a genius. Jose does this and he is killing the sport.
Jose didn't win 4-0. He got 1 goal in regular time on a bush-league mistake by Gerrard completely against the run of play. The other goal is not even worth mentioning.
Chelsea fans are coming out stupid on this one.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:12 am to uway
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The "2-0" really has nothing to do with it.
His quote was "this is what happens when you don't play football" as in, you lose. Well three days prior to him saying that his team lost by 2 goals to a team "not playing football". So yea, it has a lot to do with it.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:15 am to nickhole5
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I’m talking about the tactics not how great some Real Madrid players are. If Chelsea had 31% of the ball, scored 2 set piece goals and 2 on a ruthless counter all the talk about be about parking the bus.
It was actually 3 set pieces and one goal because he has the two best/fastest wingers in the world but point made.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:16 am to uway
so the liverpool game was the only time Jose was accused of parking the bus? No. It's complained about in every big game he coaches. I'm trying to point out that he's not the only one who succeeds with these tactics. Should I only appreciate games that are 4-0, 5-4 etc... with good defense and organization not even a thought?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:17 am to uway
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He got 1 goal in regular time
Ha, so goals only count if they are scored at certain times now?
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bush-league mistake by Gerrard completely against the run of play.
Almost every goal comes from a a mistake.
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Chelsea fans are coming out stupid on this one.
At least you aren't making things up and disregarding things that don't fit our narrative.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:17 am to uway
Personally, I'm tired of all this "park the bus" talk. It's all just tactics. There's no right or wrong way to play the game. It's a results-based business, and different coaches have differently philosophies on how to get the job done. A good coach will often adapt their philosophy based on their personnel and what they are up against. If a team wants to set up defensively, it's your responsibility to break them down. If you can't do it, you don't deserve to win. No matter how much possession you have.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:22 am to PeepleHeppinBidness
I think Enrique's point is being missed. Yes, he has some butt-hurt, but I think the point is that you can't suddenly turn it on and play offense and play football when you constantly keep not playing football. Eventually it will take its toll.
Now, has it gotten Chelsea (and Jose) to where he is today? Certainly.
But when we needed to score, he had nowhere to turn, and no established identity (for scoring)to go to. Part of this is the players, but I think Enrique is also saying that part of it is being hard to switch styles when no identity exists. Maybe I'll just giving too much credit to his butt-hurt troll tweet though?
Now, has it gotten Chelsea (and Jose) to where he is today? Certainly.
But when we needed to score, he had nowhere to turn, and no established identity (for scoring)to go to. Part of this is the players, but I think Enrique is also saying that part of it is being hard to switch styles when no identity exists. Maybe I'll just giving too much credit to his butt-hurt troll tweet though?
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