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LosLobos111
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t's what you have to do now days. Our team is too cluttered with mid-level guys. We need a star to add to Davis and Holiday. In my mind, it should be a dominant front court player. That would allow Davis to expand his game out and reach his full potential.


I'll give you that gordon(and to a lesser extent Ryno) are mid-level guys. I'm just in the mindset that sacrificing 2 mid-level guys+other assets for a guy that may or may not fit together with AD(Love isn't really a 5). If this was cousins or an elite 3 like George i'd be more willing.

AD is honestly fine where he's at,he'll develop a 3 point shot down the line(ala bosh) but I don't want him solely focusing on improving that aspect.

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I know you won't agree, but I think Gordon and Evans are a push. Evans would have better trade value due to his contract. Plus he's played with Martin and they have a good relationship, that might help the trade go through. Gordon would be a nice 4th scorer. At this point, I know he isn't going anywhere, so might as well let him play it out.


Yeah we'll have to agree to disagree here. Gordon is only a better outside shooter right now(tyreke improved on this the season went on) and the rest of his game falls quite short of rekes.

Tyreke also showed well above average defensive skills:

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Though not typically respected for his defense, Tyreke Evans showed excellent lateral mobility on defense this season, despite other more team-focused measures that may indicate otherwise. Given all of the Pelicans’ injuries this season, using individual numbers may paint a better picture with a one-season sample size. Per SynergySports, Evans was an above average defender in both isolation and P&R ball-handler situations, as well as one of the best in the league in handoff plays. Things get a bit more dicey when he is matched up against shooters, but when Evans is one-on-one with the task of preventing his man from getting to the rim, he often succeeds.


Tyreke may have slightly better trade value but he's worth much more to the pels imo.

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We would still have the MLE and some cap space. So if we resign Morrow, Roberts and Smith. Plus pick up Granger or Marion. We'd end up with..

Holiday/Roberts/Barea
Gordon/Morrow
Granger or Marion/Budinger
Davis/Smith
Love/Ajinca/Withey

That's a top 4 seed in the West next year, with two all-stars that are both top 10 players in the league.



Yes but we'd still be below average at the 3 and EG is not the picture of health(smith too)

That bench wouldn't scare anyone either.

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Yes, it's a star driven league. If you have a chance to combine a top 5-10 player with Davis, then you need to do it..


Sure but is it worth sacrifcing all of that depth+Solid players(Gordon/Evans/Ryno/Rivers and a possible pick)?

Jrue+Tyreke+AD are stars and we need to build around them.






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We are not getting love. But if we could, you trade anyone not named AD to get him. Love next to Ad is unguardable, and they are two top 8-10 players. That combo would wreck so much havoc it is frightening. The D would work out, especially with Love's rebounding.





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The D would work out, especially with Love's rebounding.


That's what worries me, the "could" of the whole thing.

Yes offensively they'd be unstoppable but what about the defense?

Look i'm by no means against Klove but I have my concerns(the fit and what we'd give up)




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Yes offensively they'd be unstoppable but what about the defense?



I'm more worried about Love's durability and the potential that it'd be a rental than his lack of defense. The team with the most imposing front line, Memphis, is also one of the teams we match up against best. Anderson isn't exactly known for his defense and Love brings a strength that is a huge deficit right now, rebounding. I think it'd work out ok, especially if you got a good 3 and D SF to help lock down the perimeter.






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I would add Toronto to the Home for Gordon list. They won't be a FA destination anytime soon thanks to snow and taxes and they have some expensive, little used guys on expirings that would actually be more productively used with Gordon. Seeing Demar Derozan trying to win the game the other night with a 3 pointer made me They need another scorer.


Toronto
- Landry Fields - $6.2 million expiring ($8.5 million due to him, was a poison pill) that played in just 30 games this season. Fields showed a lot of potential as a rookie and just fell off the map after that. Could be a good reclamation project.
- Chuck Hayes - $6 million expiring bench big. Undersized and overpaid but a career plus rebounder who might be a good stop gap "starting" center.



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If Anderson can come back healthy, I'd rather spend money/assets elsewhere than Love. They have similar games. Love is a little tougher, but Anderson is a lot cheaper.





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Yeah, I'm on the fence with Love. Like I said, durability and being a rental are legit concerns, BUT, if you need to add a top 20 player to this mix to become a contender, which is debatable, I think Love is the most obvious target on the horizon.





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- Landry Fields - $6.2 million expiring ($8.5 million due to him, was a poison pill) that played in just 30 games this season. Fields showed a lot of potential as a rookie and just fell off the map after that. Could be a good reclamation project.


Wow, his annual 3P% is not looking good:

.393
.295
.143
.000

He may be draining threes in the other team's basket next year.






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I have no doubt that Davis and Love would make a good duo. My concern would be, as you mentioned, trading for a rental. Giving up assets and playmakers for a year or two of Love is not worth it. Giving up assets and playmakers for five years of Love probably is.

Jrue, Love, and Davis would be hard to beat. The only problem would be having enough money to fill out the roster with guys who aren't black holes on offense, like Aminu.




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If Anderson can come back healthy, I'd rather spend money/assets elsewhere than Love. They have similar games. Love is a little tougher, but Anderson is a lot cheaper.


"Similar games", yes. But Love is head and shoulders above any other stretch 4 in the league. He revolutionized that role.

But generally I agree with you. I would rather Anderson's production on his contract.

Love needs 20 shots a game, too. We would basically be starting over if we brought him in as far as defining roles on this team goes. At this point, I think we have our core and are now adding complimentary pieces.






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I might add OKC to the list of Gordon homes if they get knocked out in the first round by the Grizz. They will be on the clock with Durant and go into "Win Now" mode just like every other franchise has done to try and keep their franchise player happy. They do have Reggie Jackson and Jeremy Lamb, but Gordon's 3 point shooting (and spacing ability) is better, and his per 36 scoring numbers are better, which might make a difference if they lose a series where there were 4 over time games. If they don't make the Finals this year or next the MELOdrama begins. I wouldn't put them at the top of the list, but I think it's more likely to happen than the big market teams. The obvious trade here would be Perkins for Gordon.


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I think they would have to send more salary than Perkins. They will be over the cap next year (around $67MM). Can they make a trade that will add another $6 million in salary?

I don't see them trading for Gordon, but that may just be me. I'll add them to the list though.






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I don't see them trading for Gordon


This thread is pretty depressing






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Considering none of these message board scenarios ever play out either





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Like I said, durability and being a rental are legit concerns,


He'd have to agree to a long term deal imo

No one would give up a crazy amount of assets like tyreke or EG+Ryno+a possible future pick for a year of love.




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Love has an option for 15/16, just like Gordon. He would just have to agree to pick-up his option (ala Paul and the Clippers after the trade). If it didn't work out, we'd head into the summer of 16 with a ton of cap space (around 30M). So we could add or subtract pieces at that time. I would think we would be a contendor by then, so he might be tempted to stay. Either way, the team has to roll the dice and take some chances somewhere down the line..





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I think it's fine to have on the list of possibilities, but Boozer isn't really a potential swap for Gordon, he's competition in the Dump Market. Chicago seems to have 2 primary targets for the offseason, Melo or bringing over Nikola Mirotic from Europe. Both moves require getting Boozer off the books. They have the amnesty option, and they have multiple 1sts this year to help them dump Boozer.


From an insider article on potential offseason moves for Chicago:
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Option No. 2 is to bring over Mirotic. You might be able to do that by staying over the cap, which would allow them to use a full mid-level exception for the Croatian big man. Then you'd try to trade Boozer's expiring deal to bring back a wing scorer to play the 3. (Not an easy option.) You can also amnesty Boozer, create as much cap space as possible, sign Mirotic and use the remaining room to get that aforementioned wing scorer. Strangely enough, Deng could prove to be the best alternative in that scenario. For me, the ideal outcome is to dangle a ring chase in front of Anthony, give him an all allowable contract options, and hope he'll accept being massively underpaid.

Gordon doesn't necessarily fit the 'wing scorer to play the 3' criteria, but in that scenario I think the Bulls might take a peek at him.






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One of the articles I had read was that Mirotic was playing so well this year he could get $7-$8 million to stay in Europe. I believe that was some Bulls Blogger so who knows how true that is. If they can get him on the MLE then a Boozer for Gordon trade would be something they consider.





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plus get rid of EG somehow


Sounds like a line from the Sopranos. Maybe you're on to something!

On a serious note, I really don't see us being able to move Mr. Exercycle at all. The league has changed and the big market teams aren't taking on other teams' mistakes like they use to. We're stuck with him and his ridiculous contract!!!!






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