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Posted on 4/30/14 at 8:56 am
Posted by JPLIII
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 8:56 am
Barring anything unforeseen, our secondary has the potential to really be special.....like Seahawks special:

Jairus Byrd
Kenny Vaccaro
Marcus Ball
Rafael Bush
Keenan Lewis
Patrick Robinson?
Corey White?

Can't wait to see this group play.
Posted by NOFLyZ0ne28
West Florida
Member since Apr 2014
876 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:01 am to
I love what I've been seeing from some of these guys, mainly Lewis and Bush, this offseason. Working in sand pits, strengthening their cardio (which I thought was an issue for Lewis at times last season), and just grinding daily; has me pretty pumped to see them play this season.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 9:02 am
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:05 am to
I don't know how deeper the safety position can be. Definitely need some more talent at the CB position, although what we have isn't bad.
Posted by JPLIII
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Member since Jan 2008
22630 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:08 am to
quote:

I don't know how deeper the safety position can be.


I know right? I'm anxious to see the Marcus Ball kid play. I know it was "highlight" video, but his vid on youtube was pretty legit. The dude looks like he can play.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Barring anything unforeseen, our SAFETIES has the potential to really be special



now it makes sense. the problem with your stance is that we have only 1 sure thing at CB. While we are definitely stacked at S, CB is still a premium for the secondary to be great
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:11 am to
Canada players are interesting. They have to deal with the field being wider. The linemen have to line up one yard off of the ball. I think that helped Hicks with his get off, seeing as he was use to having to cover more ground quicker.

Could you image Jenkins on a CFL field?
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:13 am to
I love your optimism, but I don't have quite the positive you do for White and Robinson. Prove me wrong, fellas.
Posted by JPLIII
Broussard - terd supporter
Member since Jan 2008
22630 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:13 am to
Hence my use of the word "potential".
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:15 am to
White played better than most people think. Robinson showed in 11 that he could be a good #2 corner. The QB rating throwing at him that year was in the 50's. Of course we switched to a zone scheme the year after with some of the worst safety play ever.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:16 am to
Don't forget about AJ Davis. He was looking like a player last year before he got IR'd w/ undisclosed injury.

This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 9:25 am
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:20 am to
quote:

White played better than most people think. Robinson showed in 11 that he could be a good #2 corner. The QB rating throwing at him that year was in the 50's. Of course we switched to a zone scheme the year after with some of the worst safety play ever.
But Robinson is coming off yet another big injury. At his position, that's a big deal.

Like I said, though, I hope I'm proven wrong on those two.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22563 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:20 am to
Champ Baily, bro. How can you forget him.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:22 am to
Yeah, health is a question mark. Ability isn't to me.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22563 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Barring anything unforeseen, our secondary has the potential to really be special.....like Seahawks special:



I don't know about that. I don't even know if the Seahawks can replicate what they did last year.

However, with an improved pass rush and solid inside LB play, they can help each other be great. I think this D can be special. If only the O can stop falling into these phases of ineffectiveness.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
165973 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Champ Baily, bro. How can you forget him.


keenan louis gonna be great this yr
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24444 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:22 am to
quote:

But Robinson is coming off yet another big injury. At his position, that's a big deal.

Like I said, though, I hope I'm proven wrong on those two.




I'm with you on Robinson. White looks to have some talent but may take a little longer to develop into the position. Both are up in the air, but I don't think Robinson will be effective. I too hope I am wrong
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:25 am to
look at whitie getting all up in that mug.

Posted by NOFLyZ0ne28
West Florida
Member since Apr 2014
876 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:30 am to
Corey White in man coverage is dispicable. I don't see how anyone has any hope for him. Hope he proves me wrong in the future, but he is just terrible in man.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9366 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Corey White in man coverage is dispicable. I don't see how anyone has any hope for him. Hope he proves me wrong in the future, but he is just terrible in man.


Delusional.

I am very excited about this secondary. I believe Robinson will be a fine #2 sharing snaps with Bailey. White will man the nickel spot, and do it WELL. Not at all worried.

Our insane DL is going to make them look even better. And honestly if I had to guess I'm sure we will play a LOT of single high safety with Byrd and whoever is our #2 will get help from him.
Posted by JPLIII
Broussard - terd supporter
Member since Jan 2008
22630 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:15 am to
I think we'll see some 3 safety sets, which will take pressure off of at least one cb. And besides, if we can at least all agree our safeties will be legit, then that "should" automatically help our cb's
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