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New Home Loan Interest Rate Lock in or wait?

Posted on 4/29/14 at 7:30 pm
Posted by Franks
AMERICA'S CITY
Member since Apr 2014
50 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 7:30 pm
I am a first time home buyer and am not well versed on mortgage rates. I am about 60 days out from closing and I can lock in 4.6% right now or "float" as the lender termed it to see if i can get a better rate in 30 days.

Anyone have any advice on whether or not I should lock this in or wait? I know rates haven't touched 4.6% in a quite a while, but I have no clue how the mortgage rate market moves.

TIA
Posted by corndawg85
MS
Member since Oct 2013
832 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:13 pm to
The past couple of weeks it has moved from 4.75% to 4.5% to 4.6%. I was offered 4.5% on a 20 year loan and I told them no and went and rate shopped got an estimate and got them to lock in at 4.25%. The rates move everyday and it is different for each lender everyday. Shop the rate and see if you can get them to match.
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
5277 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:23 pm to
I locked in at 4.25% in Feb. glad I did!

Where is TulaneUVA??

Think I told him rates were on the rise not too long ago.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39549 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:36 pm to
Ya one day last week I got 4.375 and no points but locked in the next day at 4.5% and they paid me points that came out to a little over a $1,000.

Shopping the rate is very important. USAA wanted me to pay them $2,000 in points for 4.5. They've been really pissing me off lately
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 8:39 pm
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:37 am to
USAA was really high on my quote as well.
Posted by lsu tigerdog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
246 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:40 am to
I'd lock to be safe. if you are working with a broker, you can have them hold off sending loan docs to underwriting, go back to broker at 45 and than 30 days, at the 30 day mark, if rate is better, he can switch lenders but has to re-disclose the loan docs.
its worth re-signing the paperwork.
I do that with my buyers.
if dealing with a bank, you cant to that,
I honestly think rates are back on the rise.
Posted by Franks
AMERICA'S CITY
Member since Apr 2014
50 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:45 am to
Thanks for the advice everyone.

Posted by LittleSpoon
goals not standards
Member since May 2010
6611 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:00 pm to
So is 4.5 average? Is below 4 possible? I saw rates hit a low today?
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3632 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:06 pm to
Those are insane

Wife and I have 3.50%
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22504 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:21 pm to
I remember going through the anxiety of when to lock a little under 2 yrs ago. Everyday, the first thing I did was check the rates. We waited till 30 days out and ended of with a 30 yr at 3.375%. It was a stressful time.
Posted by SG_Geaux
1 Post
Member since Aug 2004
77923 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:21 am to
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Those are insane

Wife and I have 3.50%



Under 4 is insane.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25384 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 5:32 am to
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Those are insane Wife and I have 3.50%


30 Year Rates Since 1971

You are the 1%

Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2753 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 5:56 am to
Take the lock in. The rate is good. While you might be disappointed if the rates get slightly lower (which they might), you'll probably be extremely pissed if the rates go up (which they might)
Posted by Skin
Member since Jun 2007
6370 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 7:36 am to
I locked in this week @ 4.25 on a 30 yr. I would shop around if they're quoting you anything 4.5 and above.
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:02 pm to
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30 Year Rates Since 1971


Holy shite 18% in 1981!!!! How did people buy houses!
Posted by Tigerholic
Member since Sep 2006
2214 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Holy shite 18% in 1981!!!! How did people buy houses!


The cost of homes were relatively much lower. Homeowners can only afford so much, so as interest rates rise the value of homes will trend down.
Posted by Venelar
The AP
Member since Oct 2010
1134 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:50 am to
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Holy shite 18% in 1981!!!! How did people buy houses!



We live in the same neighborhood as my in-laws. They bought in 1981 for 78k (18%). We bought in 2006 for 135k at 3.75%.

Blows my mind.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25384 posts
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

The cost of homes were relatively much lower. Homeowners can only afford so much, so as interest rates rise the value of homes will trend down.


Interest rates around 7% have been consistent with the healthiest of US economies. If rates are there, and the economy is healthy, why would home values automatically trend down? Wouldn't demand and inflation also factor in? Too many variables for this assertion IMO
Posted by Tigerholic
Member since Sep 2006
2214 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:46 pm to
True there are several other variables, but from a broad perspective the majority of homebuyers will be taking out a mortgage and they can only pay so much per month. If they can only afford $1000 per month then at a higher rate more of that money goes to paying interest than to paying off the principal.

Think about it like this, if the interest rates doubled overnight, the same buyer that was looking at a $400k house might only afford a $300k house now(I didn't run the exact math) but you get my drift. Since buyers can only afford so much the price has to come back in like with what they can afford.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:04 pm to
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Under 4 is insane.


Had an econ professor bitching about not waiting and getting 3.25-3.5% after he locked in at 3.75%
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