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Congress says cost to protect civilian grid against EMP is only $2 billion
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:36 pm
$2 billion dollars is equal to "aid" that we send to Pakistan each year. Essentially, it would cost us nothing to completely protect our civilian grid against EMP destruction (nuclear or solar).
Yet, Congress won't approve the funds to do this even though experts indicate that it would be incredibly easy and quick to perform the task.
Why won't Congress approve protection of the civilian grid when they long ago (1950s and 60s) made the effort to protect military and government grids?
link to story
Conspiracy Theorists...question:
Has our government failed to protect the civilian grid for a far more sinister reason, perhaps a future globally planned human depopulation event?
Yet, Congress won't approve the funds to do this even though experts indicate that it would be incredibly easy and quick to perform the task.
Why won't Congress approve protection of the civilian grid when they long ago (1950s and 60s) made the effort to protect military and government grids?
link to story
quote:
“The problem is not the technology,” Pry said. “We know how to protect against it. It’s not the money, it doesn’t cost that much. The problem is the politics. It always seems to be the politics that gets in the way.”
Peter Vincent Pry says technology exists to protect against the damage from electromagnetic pulses.
He said the more officials plan, the lower the estimated cost gets.
“If you do a smart plan — the Congressional EMP Commission estimated that you could protect the whole country for about $2 billion,” Pry told Watchdog.org. “That’s what we give away in foreign aid to Pakistan every year.”
quote:
In the first few minutes of an EMP, nearly half a million people would die. That’s the worst-case scenario that author William R. Forstchen estimated in 2011 would be the result of an EMP on the electric grid — whether by an act of God, or a nuclear missile detonating in Earth’s upper atmosphere.
quote:
On multiple occasions during the past 155 years, large enough CME’s have disrupted electrical systems on Earth. One of the largest recorded solar flares happened in 1859. The CME, called the Carrington Event, disrupted telegraph systems in Europe and North America, and lit up the evening sky.
A solar flare in 1989 caused a blackout in Quebec that lasted more than nine hours, and systems as far away as New Jersey were also damaged. In 2013, Space.com ranked the solar storm that caused the blackout as the fourth worst in history.
Conspiracy Theorists...question:
Has our government failed to protect the civilian grid for a far more sinister reason, perhaps a future globally planned human depopulation event?
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:37 pm to mizzoukills
I'd rather see the 2 billion spent on a BR loop.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:41 pm to Cosmo
If you could make the definitive decision on how $2 billion was spent, and you only had two choices, 1) send it to Pakistan, or 2) protect our grid from human or natural EMP catastrophe...which option would you choose?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:42 pm to mizzoukills
If they estimate 2 bill. It would cost 50 billion
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:42 pm to mizzoukills
You really start a lot of strange threads that border on tin foil
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:43 pm to mizzoukills
Why is EMP suddenly the disaster to prepare for? Why not floods or fires or tornados? You know... things that actually happen.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:49 pm to Spirit of Dunson
I can tell you didn't read the report. This has happened before...several times. The EMP event that occurred in 1859 would've destroyed this country today. That was a solar flare event, and solar flare occur all the time.
Another massive solar flare event will happen again, just like another New Madrid earthquake of epic proportions. River towns have been reinforcing bridges and buildings for years preparing for the next earthquake.
Why not protect our civilian grid?
Are you seriously this retarded or inept?
Another massive solar flare event will happen again, just like another New Madrid earthquake of epic proportions. River towns have been reinforcing bridges and buildings for years preparing for the next earthquake.
Why not protect our civilian grid?
Are you seriously this retarded or inept?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:49 pm to Spirit of Dunson
I wanna know how the hell half a million people would die in a couple minutes
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:49 pm to Spirit of Dunson
quote:That's the first time I've even heard of "EM's". I must be ignant.
Why is EM suddenly the disaster to prepare for? Why not floods or fires or tornados? You know... things that actually happen.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:50 pm to mizzoukills
I don't believe a damn thing they say about anything.
If they can sit there and say the cost is 2B and it truly does occur, then we the people have the right to drag their sorry asses through the streets until they did from pain and suffering for letting it occur while they piss off 2B an hour in front of our faces.
Every single person making a living on Capital Hill at our expense deserves the worst life has to offer, IMO.
If they can sit there and say the cost is 2B and it truly does occur, then we the people have the right to drag their sorry asses through the streets until they did from pain and suffering for letting it occur while they piss off 2B an hour in front of our faces.
Every single person making a living on Capital Hill at our expense deserves the worst life has to offer, IMO.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:51 pm to mizzoukills
Asteroids have also struck earth before and caused a lot more damage than a 9 hour blackout in Quebec. Why not build up asteroid defense systems?
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:58 pm to Spirit of Dunson
quote:
Asteroids have also struck earth before and caused a lot more damage than a 9 hour blackout in Quebec. Why not build up asteroid defense systems?
Asteroids and other near Earth objects are at least being searched for and tracked, though that effort is woefully inadequate from what I understand. As for EMP, it would be ridiculously worse than a 9 hour blackout. I would rather spend on these things than manned missions to Mars, for example.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:00 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
maybe there are currently half a million people relying on machines to keep them alive? And by that I mean everything from a breathing machine to someone in an airplane.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:02 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
The 9 hour blackout was in reference to a recent major EMP event (1989) I think the risk is overblown and money better spent elsewhere (but not pakistan)
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:08 pm to pilsnerpusher
quote:Pacemakers, airplanes, medical tech in hospitals, electrical components in cars, etc.
maybe there are currently half a million people relying on machines to keep them alive? And by that I mean everything from a breathing machine to someone in an airplane.
There are many things that would go down instantly.
Why they are focusing on this now, Scruffy has no idea, but it is a good thing to actually focus on. A solar flare is much more likely than a nuclear weapon, and they have happened before.
Preparing for this is like preparing for a hurricane, earthquake, or tornado. It's smart to preemptively address certain issues.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:08 pm to Spirit of Dunson
EMP overhyped
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:11 pm to Spirit of Dunson
quote:Scruffy thinks that a one time spending on this would be a very good investment.
The 9 hour blackout was in reference to a recent major EMP event (1989) I think the risk is overblown and money better spent elsewhere (but not pakistan)
The problem is that the cost will be WAY more than 2 billion because government is retarded.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:12 pm to Scruffy
quote:
The problem is that the cost will be WAY more than 2 billion because government is retarded
Yep
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:14 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
quote:Planes and cars would instantly lose power...thats what I can think of right off the top
I wanna know how the hell half a million people would die in a couple minutes
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:15 pm to Spirit of Dunson
quote:Its obvious that would cost more than $2bil
Asteroids have also struck earth before and caused a lot more damage than a 9 hour blackout in Quebec. Why not build up asteroid defense systems?
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