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Will MLB experts in the future view Pujols' move to LA as a legacy blunder?

Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:41 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:41 pm
Legacy wise, I believe it'll haunt him. When sports writers across the country who aren't even Cardinals fans are lamenting that his 500 HR milestone would've been celebrated by the media and fans across the country more if he would've done it as a Cardinal rather than an Angel...it's sort of sad.

I completely understand why Pujol's left. The financial offer he received from Anaheim was too good not to at least strongly consider. No one can fault him for chasing the largest paycheck.

However, his milestone won't make sense years from now in the Hall of Fame when people look at the picture of him hitting homerun #500 in an Angels jersey.

Perhaps I'm wrong about the statement that will follow next: I believe that he regrets his decision.

I believe he underestimated the STL fan factor...that the incredible STL fans encouraged him to thrive and exceed expectations.

Perhaps he became a victim of his own legend and briefly forgot that many baseball legends have played far above their expected talent level in STL because of the energy, love, and expectations of the STL fans. He's not benefitting from that energy in Anaheim.

Pujols made a financial decision for himself and his family. However, I refuse to believe that he only cares about the money. He felt disrespected by the Cardinals organization (contract wise) and leaving was his way of flipping the middle finger to Cardinal management for not opening the bank vault wide open. It was a rash decision that I believe he now regrets.

It's sad to see Pujols' great milestone come and go without much fanfare. He was the King of MLB not long ago. Now he's been reduced to just another player who appears to have reached or passed his prime...a player who is quietly playing towards retirement.

Money for Pujols hasn't been a concern for a long time. STL had already made him incredibly rich long before Anaheim came calling.

When he's older and nostalgically thinking back on the best days of his incredible career, I wonder if he'll think about what his legacy would look like if he had stayed in STL? Or, will he think about all the money he made?

I bet he'll choose to remember the memory of the cheering STL fans, the energy at Busch Stadium, the historic playoff runs, and the World Championships far more than the Anaheim paycheck.

This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:42 pm to
Ask peej
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:44 pm to
How could he leave the B F in the L?


ETA -

quote:

I bet he'll choose to remember the memory of the cheering STL fans, the energy at Busch Stadium, the historic playoff runs, and the world championships far more than the Anaheim paycheck.




This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:48 pm to
Not Chipper, Don't matter.
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:48 pm to
He don't regret it bruh

Not a bit
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:48 pm to
Let him go. He's never coming back.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:48 pm to
perhaps I'm wrong
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

I bet he'll choose to remember the quarter of a billion dollars he made
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Legacy wise, I believe it'll haunt him.


bullshite.

His legacy is as a baseball player and humanitarian. Not as a Cardinal and humanitarian. As much as you want to believe the jersey he wore was a determining factor in his success, it wasn't.

I'm still glad he was a Cardinal for all those years and happy I got to see him play in person a bunch. But he's not a bad guy for chasing dollars. And chasing dollars does not tarnish ones legacy.
Posted by Dubosed
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:52 pm to
Albert doesn't give a shite and you shouldn't either.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:53 pm to
So he's a terrible person for chasing buckets and buckets of money?

Dude is a huge humanitarian, all around good guy, and will still be a well above average (when healthy) ball player for a long time.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

bullshite.

His legacy is as a baseball player and humanitarian. Not as a Cardinal and humanitarian. As much as you want to believe the jersey he wore was a determining factor in his success, it wasn't.

I'm still glad he was a Cardinal for all those years and happy I got to see him play in person a bunch. But he's not a bad guy for chasing dollars. And chasing dollars does not tarnish ones legacy.

He isnt a bad guy, and I dont blame him for going for more money. But 110% it takes away from his legacy without a doubt. There is no arguing it really. Jeter, Musial,Mantle, MJ, all have lasting legacies helped by the fact that they stayed in one place. Does it take away from Pujols as a person or a player? Not at all. But one is very very naive if they think changing teams wont diminish his "legacy"
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Will MLB experts in the future view Pujols' move to LA as a legacy blunder?



Probably, because MLB writers love to buy into shite like this:

quote:

many baseball legends have played far above their expected talent level in STL because of the energy, love, and expectations of the STL fans. He's not benefitting from that energy in Anaheim.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:53 pm to
I didn't actually read all of it the first go around. This dude has to be trolling


quote:

I believe he underestimated the STL fan factor...that the incredible STL fans encouraged him to thrive and exceed expectations.

Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70071 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Jeter, Musial,Mantle, MJ, all have lasting legacies helped by the fact that they stayed in one place.


You may want to rethink one of your examples.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

You may want to rethink one of your examples.
Jeter-Debuted with the Yankees, will retire a yankee. Musial-Debuted with the cards, will retire a card, Mantle-Debuted with the Yankees, retired with the yankees. Magic- debuted with the Lakers and retired with the Lakers. Am I missing something?

ETA: All these players were great, but their "Legacy" is greater because they stayed with one team.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71328 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

I believe he underestimated the STL fan factor...that the incredible STL fans encouraged him to thrive and exceed expectations.



I didn't see that.

Now I understand why basketball fans do spirit fingers, it really does help the ball go into the hoop!
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70071 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Am I missing something?


There is only one person referred to by the initials MJ, if you were referring to Magic, say Magic.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

But 110% it takes away from his legacy without a doubt.


Signed
Wayne Gretzky

Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:57 pm to
Magic Johnson as MJ
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