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re: Anthony Davis finished third in most improved. Dragic wins
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:58 pm to ShamelessPel
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:58 pm to ShamelessPel
quote:Your logic is awful.
Not looking at per minute averages. Outside of his rebounding percentage/steals (which remained status quo) his advanced stats are up across the board. Literally. Dragic dipped in some areas way more than Davis did.
Yes, Davis improved (almost) across the board SLIGHTLY.
Dragic improved in most areas, but did dip in a couple SLIGHTLY.
But Dragic had the most drastic IMPROVEMENTS. Davis didn't improve drastically anywhere.
Dragic's dips were extremely small to the point where it's really not even a dip. Davis' improvements were either due to increased minutes and expected improvement from one year to the next at his age. They weren't drastic night and day differences like with Dragic.
Davis was good last year, he just didn't get enough minutes. While Davis did better than almost everybody thought he would, it wasn't particularly surprising that Davis would be a beast.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 1:01 pm
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:01 pm to PrimeTime Money
It really would have been a slap in the face if a #1 overall pick would have won this award in his 2nd year in the league....
come on guys yall have to know this kind of stuff right? basketball IQ? Is it there??
come on guys yall have to know this kind of stuff right? basketball IQ? Is it there??
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:11 pm to longhorn22
quote:I kind of understand what you are saying but I really doubt many people feel this way. I bet cavs fans would be thrilled if Anthony Bennett would win it next year
It really would have been a slap in the face if a #1 overall pick would have won this award in his 2nd year in the league....
come on guys yall have to know this kind of stuff right? basketball IQ? Is it there??
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:22 pm to longhorn22
quote:
It really would have been a slap in the face if a #1 overall pick would have won this award in his 2nd year in the league....
come on guys yall have to know this kind of stuff right? basketball IQ? Is it there??
You are taking a subjective subject, making it your own version of black and white, and insulting people for not agreeing with one of your personal "unwritten requirements" of being MIP.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:37 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Dragic's dips were extremely small to the point where it's really not even a dip. Davis' improvements were either due to increased minutes and expected improvement from one year to the next at his age. They weren't drastic night and day differences like with Dragic.
I thought Dragic deserved to win, but lets not say his dips were "slight"
35.7 ast% to 28.1 is a huge drop, considering his average is 29.4% as well.
His ast#s went down from 7.4->5.9 while playing 1.5 more minutes. per 36, thats going from 7.9apg to 6.0apg while keeping the same TO#s
His drastic improvement in shooting % 44.3 to 50.5 is a big jump and so is his 3pt% of 31.9 to 40.8.
His usage rate also went up.
He rightfully deserved it, but to act as if the part where he dipped isn't important is being narrow minded.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:14 pm to htran90
Assists were really the only thing that dipped a decent bit.
I was talking about the other categories where he went down from like 1.7 steals to 1.4. Or went from 0.4 blocks to 0.3. Those are the dips I'm talking about. I don't even consider those dips.
And personally, I hate assists as a statistic. It depends just as much on other players as the person who passed the ball.
And one obvious reason that his assists could be down is due to Eric Bledsoe.
I was talking about the other categories where he went down from like 1.7 steals to 1.4. Or went from 0.4 blocks to 0.3. Those are the dips I'm talking about. I don't even consider those dips.
And personally, I hate assists as a statistic. It depends just as much on other players as the person who passed the ball.
quote:And my point was that the areas he dipped were not crucial. It's not like his FG% went down and he's scoring more due to volume. The areas where he made drastic improvements are some of the most important areas.
He rightfully deserved it, but to act as if the part where he dipped isn't important is being narrow minded.
And one obvious reason that his assists could be down is due to Eric Bledsoe.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:23 pm to stbpike24
Means nothing. Davis is the future of the NBA. All that matters.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 3:14 pm to PrimeTime Money
Off topic but Harden is trash and is useless without his 15 freethrows a games
Posted on 4/23/14 at 3:35 pm to 504ByrdGang
And Anthony Davis would be useless if he didn't have arms.
Who gives a shite.
Who gives a shite.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 3:36 pm to PrimeTime Money
Harden is going to keep shooting 36% he's the new T-Mac stuck in the first
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:05 am to 504ByrdGang
So who came in 2nd?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:08 am to txbd
quote:
So who came in 2nd?
Lance Stephenson
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:15 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
And Anthony Davis would be useless if he didn't have arms.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:20 am to Fearthehat0307
correct it would be a slap in the face if AD had won it...
Same way as if LeBron or MJ or any other top tier kind of guy would have won it the 2nd year they are in the league...
Now Anthony Bennet is a different situation I think...there was no progression really...when a top pick with "potential" to be great isnt great and falls off tremendously then yes if out of nowhere this guy comes back and improves and doubles every stat line ect. then yes that potential player deserves it...
But it would have kind of been a slap in the face to AD...1)too young and fresh to receive the award 2) he's just in another level than this award. 3) AD will win an MVP before he wins this crappy MIP
Same way as if LeBron or MJ or any other top tier kind of guy would have won it the 2nd year they are in the league...
Now Anthony Bennet is a different situation I think...there was no progression really...when a top pick with "potential" to be great isnt great and falls off tremendously then yes if out of nowhere this guy comes back and improves and doubles every stat line ect. then yes that potential player deserves it...
But it would have kind of been a slap in the face to AD...1)too young and fresh to receive the award 2) he's just in another level than this award. 3) AD will win an MVP before he wins this crappy MIP
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