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The fact that we have a "Bureau of Land Management"...

Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:16 am
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10187 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:16 am
...is this emblematic of the larger problem? Our fed gov has a bureau for everything.

Does land need to be managed in a free society?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:17 am to
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a free society
Posted by ComicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2005
992 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:19 am to
You know how the Federal govt works, they had to have some official entity to handle the constant fricking over of the Indians. Can't just leave that to just anyone.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:27 am to
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Does land need to be managed in a free society?

Yes - even public land.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:13 am to
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RidiculousHype


If you are alleging that the BLM is unnecessary, surely you can educate us on what they do. Right?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20373 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:00 am to
LOL have you looked into the "management" of the BLM
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20373 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:03 am to
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If you are alleging that the BLM is unnecessary, surely you can educate us on what they do. Right?


they do this
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:52 am to
I fail to see what they do that either isn't duplicative of other agencies (GSA handles leases for most Federal agencies, DoD handles property for military bases) or isn't even Constitutional (again, why isn't that excess land turned over to the states?)
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:53 am to
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You know how the Federal govt works, they had to have some official entity to handle the constant f*cking over of the Indians. Can't just leave that to just anyone.


That's Bureau of Indian Affairs.

One agency to mess them over personally, another to mess over their land.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:03 pm to
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One agency to mess them over personally, another to mess over their land.


They do an extraordinary job messing over themselves and their land. That's one group that I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:07 pm to
No answers? What is the mission of the BLM?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Yes - even public land.


There is no public land in a free society - only land not owned by someone.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:09 pm to
Should the largest land owner in the nation not give thought to how the land is managed? I would personally like to see the BLM to treat the lands in every other state in an equitable manner to the offshore waters of Louisiana. Texas has control over its coast past the three mile limit of Louisiana. Every other state gets 50% of revenue from natural resource mining/exploration endeavors within them. We have been fricked for close to fifty years due to a decision by the Supremes as we have a three mile limit on the treasure trove of oil beneath us.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:42 pm to
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surely you can educate us on what they do. Right?
Bully people and waste money
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:55 pm to
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only land not owned by someone.

Can two people share an undivided interest in a piece of land?

...how about three people?

...how about 300 million people?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:56 pm to
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we have a three mile limit on the treasure trove of oil beneath us.

No we don't.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:01 pm to
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Can two people share an undivided interest in a piece of land?

...how about three people?

...how about 300 million people?


Sure. Creating a contract for 300,000,000+ is a little bit more Byzantine than for a much smaller number.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:18 pm to
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Sure. Creating a contract for 300,000,000+ is a little bit more Byzantine than for a much smaller number.

You don't need individual contracts, you just need some sort of management agency to handle contracts. Let's call it the "BLM".
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67642 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:36 pm to
couldn't we combine them with the U.S. Parks Service and eliminate a department?

They both oversee land, seems similar to me.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 3:36 pm to
The BLM’s multiple-use mission, set forth in the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976, mandates that we manage public land resources for a variety of uses, such as energy development, livestock grazing, recreation, and timber harvesting, while protecting a wide array of natural, cultural, and historical resources, many of which are found in the BLM's 27 million-acre National Landscape Conservation System. The conservation system includes 221 Wilderness Areas totaling 8.7 million acres, as well as 16 National Monuments comprising 4.8 million acres.

The BLM does its complex and challenging work with an annual budget of more than $1 billion and a workforce of about 10,000 full-time employees. The BLM is one of a handful of Federal agencies that generates more revenue for the United States than it spends. For example, in Fiscal Year 2012, nearly $5 billion will be generated by activities on BLM-managed lands, including an estimated $4.3 billion from onshore oil and gas development, with about half of those revenues going to the states where the mineral leasing occurred.

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