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Why (Anti-Progress) Progressives Should Hate Innovation
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:40 pm
via Uber and Lyft
you get the point. but then he goes into an attack on hipster and then starts to tell the customers what they should do to improve the cab industry in St Louis (seriously. i shite you not)
so instead of pushing for his industry to adapt to the market, to better SERVE the population, he tells the market how it's wrong
then he fricking GOES OFF on hipsters
humane and just = do what the frick i say, you stupid peasant-customer. and i will use government to force you to use my services by making my competition illegal. that is a "humane and just" society, motherfricker
supporting progress in the market means you can't make a claim of being progressive
improving a service industry by promoting what customers want? conservative idea
the 2012 election called...
seriously you guys...seriously
there is more
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Uber and Lyft may sound like a good idea and may sound "progressive." They probably sound the best to people who know the least about cabs. We can start with the knowledge that St. Louis has a long history of cab companies. Some still operating and many who have went away. There are many professional cabbies who have been driving for decades. For cabbies to earn a decent living there has to be proper regulation of the industry. Too few cabs and the public isn't served and too many and drivers can't make decent money.
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Driving a cab in St. Louis is a job that has allowed drivers to buy homes, raise families and send their children to college. Its not a plaything for me. I work six or seven days a week on this job (usually 10-12 hours a day) and that's the money I use to support my children and pay my bills. While business in the fall, winter and spring is brisk, for the most part come summer time business grinds to a halt. Drivers barely make it in the summer time and there is little margin for error. With Uber and Lyft appearing on the scene that margin of error may be wiped away, drivers may lose their jobs, tuition may not get paid, the lights may go out, the gas may get cut off, evictions can happen, and marriages and relationships may crumble. Its that serious.
you get the point. but then he goes into an attack on hipster and then starts to tell the customers what they should do to improve the cab industry in St Louis (seriously. i shite you not)
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However, allow me to share how customers can be proactive in improving their experience. Since Uber and Lyft are designed to serve the hipster population let me share with you some of the problems hipsters seem to have with catching cabs:
Making time-orders and then still coming out late or not coming out at all
Calling from high-rise apartment buildings and not waiting in the lobby forcing drivers to double-park and block traffic
Calling for a cab from a bar and then just hopping into the first cab you see regardless as to whether its your cab or not
Getting into unlicensed cabs and then complaining you got screwed
so instead of pushing for his industry to adapt to the market, to better SERVE the population, he tells the market how it's wrong
then he fricking GOES OFF on hipsters
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So, now, let me use this time to call out hipsters and ask: What kind of a society do you want to live in? Do you favor the right-wing economics of the GOP or do you favor a more humane and just society?
humane and just = do what the frick i say, you stupid peasant-customer. and i will use government to force you to use my services by making my competition illegal. that is a "humane and just" society, motherfricker
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If you're supporting the decimation of good working-class jobs you can't make a very good claim of being progressive.
supporting progress in the market means you can't make a claim of being progressive
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Uber and Lyft are conservative economic ideas.
improving a service industry by promoting what customers want? conservative idea
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If you're an economic conservative, despite how ironic and sarcastic you may be or how tight your jeans are, you, my friend, are a conservative.
the 2012 election called...
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However, there is something even worse. If you believe the resources of the state should be used to help the affluent and disenfranchise the poor, which often happens during gentrification, that puts you in a category that conjures up some very nasty images from the 20th century.
seriously you guys...seriously
there is more
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
I watched Cody Wilson's interview with Reason and he mentioned that when the State department claimed IP over the proliferation of Defense Distributed's Liberator files it caused the hipsters on Reddit to choose between 3D Printed guns and censorship over the internet.
They sided with the guns surprisingly.
You can see that some of them get that innovation is going to frick their ideology, hopefully they learn something.
They sided with the guns surprisingly.
You can see that some of them get that innovation is going to frick their ideology, hopefully they learn something.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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For cabbies to earn a decent living there has to be proper regulation of the industry. Too few cabs and the public isn't served and too many and drivers can't make decent money.
I'll read the rest of your post because living in DC (which has a large uber/lyft presence) this interests me.
But good god, that quote made my medulla oblongata hurt
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Damn. That's awful close to uber left.
:Uber and Lyft
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
your color commentary is pretty funny.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:44 pm to joshnorris14
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You can see that some of them get that innovation is going to frick their ideology, hopefully they learn something.
i'm curious if they threw in a random racism allegation in there
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
Why don't people take cabs in St. Louis in the summer?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
Read this: LINK
Note the line after line of condescension but intellectual admittance that they aren't going to be able to stop real progress:
Note the line after line of condescension but intellectual admittance that they aren't going to be able to stop real progress:
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On the one hand, Wilson has the slightly annoying air of being the smartest boy in the class. Or at least the one who likes to show off his intellectual credentials the most. He's confident and expert at expounding a theory, even when the theory is rubbish. He could, frankly, make a very effective politician. But on the other hand … well, he's right. What he's done is more powerful and raises more fundamental political questions than any politician, in recent times.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm not sure how anyone who supports a free market, capitalist economy can argue against cab companies like uber.
Obviously if the existing service was sufficient, people wouldn't want them anyway. Waiting an hour for a cab on 3rd Street in downtown BR is not cutting it.
Obviously if the existing service was sufficient, people wouldn't want them anyway. Waiting an hour for a cab on 3rd Street in downtown BR is not cutting it.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
I've never been able to use uber, but I didn't realize only hipsters used it.
I like how (the quoted sections at least) completely ignore the fact that though cab drivers are making less money the uber drivers are better able to pay for tuition, food, keeping their lights on, etc.
I like how (the quoted sections at least) completely ignore the fact that though cab drivers are making less money the uber drivers are better able to pay for tuition, food, keeping their lights on, etc.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:02 pm to joshnorris14
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Read this: LINK
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Note the line after line of condescension
dude this shite is just terrible
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The problem with Wilson's argument is that's it's an argument, one that you might formulate in the sixth-form debating society. And on the other side, there would be a dead person. Your mother, perhaps. Or your son who, if it hadn't been for Wilson, and his desire to push the boundaries of internet freedom further, would still be alive.
the apex of emotional argument and shedding logic
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He is an articulate proponent of an influential new subculture. Welcome to the world of the techno-libertarians, an ideology based on the convergence of libertarian politics and a free and open web. Its poster boy is Peter Thiel, the billionaire co-founder of PayPal, and a funder of causes ranging from paying young people not to go to college, to Seasteading, a floating offshore nation state. Its spiritual home is Silicon Valley but, like the internet, it's distributed everywhere, an increasingly visible, well-funded new political ideology.
Silicon Valley is scarring contemporary liberals with the "opt out-in" discussions
they. are. scared.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they. are. scared.
Shitless. It's glorious
I read that article and couldn't help but smile.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:28 pm to joshnorris14
the one you linked or the NYT one about "opting out"?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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like spending unregulated digital currency, sleeping in unregulated hotels and manufacturing unregulated guns
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm all for technology replacing human labor. Why the frick would we be inventing new tools if we're still going to work just as hard? seem counter intuitive and like a shite plan. I know if one of my subordinates came to me and said lets spend a lot of time and money developing new technology just so we can keep up the same workload.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
I love how he assumes such a small sector (hipsters) is driving the market while discounting his own failings to the overall customer base.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:58 pm to oklahogjr
I'm pretty sure uber replaces all of the cab company bureaucracy, but since that doesn't fit the company spin, you ignored that.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:09 pm to TROLA
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while discounting his own failings to the overall customer base.
did you read the article?
it's the customers' collective fault
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So, now, let me use this time to call out hipsters and ask: What kind of a society do you want to live in? Do you favor the right-wing economics of the GOP or do you favor a more humane and just society?
What a dipshit.
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