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New NBA Rule re: Mickey
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:40 am
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:40 am
So the NBA and NCAA agreed on a "two and done" rule just now. I know this forces Ben Simmons to stay for two years, but my question is how does this affect Jordan Mickey?
Does this rule apply to him, or will it only apply to those not already enrolled in college?
TIA
Does this rule apply to him, or will it only apply to those not already enrolled in college?
TIA
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:42 am to Bear Is Dead
It doesn't NBA and Players association still have to agree on it. They would have to amend the current CBA.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:43 am to Bear Is Dead
No offense, but where are ya'll seeing this reported? There's a 67 post thread on the More Sports Board with not a link proving this to be true seen anywhere.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:44 am to Bear Is Dead
It isn't official yet and it will in no way affect Mickey. It may not work with Simmons.
The rumor is 2 yrs or 20 years old. Simmons turns 20 just a month after draft and they normally have some grace period that may qualify him.
The rumor is 2 yrs or 20 years old. Simmons turns 20 just a month after draft and they normally have some grace period that may qualify him.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:44 am to Bear Is Dead
Should make them all stay for three before leaving school.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:49 am to YouAre8Up
Mick goin' no where.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:49 am to Bear Is Dead
If passed, how many big name prospects go to Europe instead of enrolling in college?
There was talk of this when high schoolers were prohibited from jumping straight to the NBA. Sadly many of these kids could care less about getting a degree, so forcing them to attend college might just get some of them to go make money overseas for a few years then return home.
There was talk of this when high schoolers were prohibited from jumping straight to the NBA. Sadly many of these kids could care less about getting a degree, so forcing them to attend college might just get some of them to go make money overseas for a few years then return home.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:55 am to sportsfan
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If passed, how many big name prospects go to Europe instead of enrolling in college?
That's what's going to happen. The NBA is using the college game as an evaluation league for potential players. Taking these kids directly out of high school is too risky and a bust could cost them big money. Better to have them play a year or two of college ball to see how they develop before making a decision to draft them or not. They'll do the same with the kids who go to Europe since the NBA and not some German league is the dream for these kids.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:57 am to Holden Caulfield
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That's what's going to happen. The NBA is using the college game as an evaluation league for potential players. Taking these kids directly out of high school is too risky and a bust could cost them big money.
Well, this is pretty much what they do in all college sports.
At the end of the day, I think it will greatly improve the college basketball game. Some will leave, but many will stay.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:00 pm to Holden Caulfield
How much would it hurt the college game though? How many big name recruits would we be talking about going overseas?
And I know they wouldn't stay in Europe permanently, just until they are eligible for NBA. My main concern is this rule's effect on college basketball.
And I know they wouldn't stay in Europe permanently, just until they are eligible for NBA. My main concern is this rule's effect on college basketball.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:01 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Well, this is pretty much what they do in all college sports
I cited the NBA primarily because they altered their rule for taking kids out of high school for the very purpose I spoke of.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:03 pm to sportsfan
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How much would it hurt the college game though?
Hard to tell. The one and dones may opt for a pro league overseas. Others who were inclined to play more than one year of college ball will continue to make their way to campus.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:09 pm to sportsfan
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How much would it hurt the college game though? How many big name recruits would we be talking about going overseas?
And I know they wouldn't stay in Europe permanently, just until they are eligible for NBA. My main concern is this rule's effect on college basketball.
I have wanted this rule for a while now. I think it is great for the college game. It's mutually beneficial for both the NCAA and NBA to have guys stick to amateur basketball for the 2 years. They can go to the league more mature and after playing against tougher competition for 2 years.
I think very few players will leave for overseas for 1 year then try to go to NBA. And those that do, would have entered the draft. Some in really tough financial situations may, but overall this will keep great players in college basketball longer.
I don't see this rule forcing kids to go overseas rather than play 1 yr college.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:16 pm to SouthOfSouth
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I don't see this rule forcing kids to go overseas rather than play 1 yr college.
It doesn't force them to do anything. However, a kid who may be willing to attend classes for a year while waiting for the NBA draft may reconsider the college route if he has to wait two years to get paid.
This affects only those players who are ready, or believe themselves to be ready, to play at a pro level coming out of HS and have no desire to attend college.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:18 pm to SouthOfSouth
I'm with you South, I have been saying for years that all these kids going pro so early is really hurting the NBA. First round draft picks should not be projects or developmental players. This rule is a great move by the NBA and should help the NCAA as well. If the top recruits stay in the states, programs will be able to get a lot more consistency.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:20 pm to Jay Quest
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This affects only those players who are ready, or believe themselves to be ready, to play at a pro level coming out of HS and have no desire to attend college.
But how many of these kids are actually ready right out of high school? There are very few Lebrons out there.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:21 pm to Jay Quest
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It doesn't force them to do anything. However, a kid who may be willing to attend classes for a year while waiting for the NBA draft may reconsider the college route if he has to wait two years to get paid.
This affects only those players who are ready, or believe themselves to be ready, to play at a pro level coming out of HS and have no desire to attend college.
I really don't see a high school kid who has never lived outside their parents house moving to Russia to play basketball.
If the norm is to do two years then leave, then I think it will become culture. They aren't requiring you to graduate or anything.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:25 pm to sportsfan
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How much would it hurt the college game though? How many big name recruits would we be talking about going overseas?
Just to put it in perspective, were talking 18 year olds moving overseas where they have no real familiarity with the teams and coaches or the system, much less FIBA rules, just so they can get paid 2 years sooner.
Plus, NCAA has better coaching talent/development/exposure. This will not encourage many kids to play overseas IMO.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:25 pm to sportsfan
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This rule is a great move by the NBA and should help the NCAA as well.
I don't really care about what's best for the NBA or even college basketball. Its the individual who counts. I deplore the idea that anyone can be required to do something they don't want to do.
The free market should dictate who signs an NBA contract out of high school and who plays elsewhere.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:27 pm to sportsfan
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And I know they wouldn't stay in Europe permanently, just until they are eligible for NBA. My main concern is this rule's effect on college basketball.
I honestly doubt this would happen.
How many 18 year olds are ready and willing to move to another country where they dont speak the language passing over free college for 2 years?
I know football there "isnt another option" but those guys make it to class and pass for 3 years I think bball can suffer through 2.
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