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75% of power plants to be closed by EPA on Jan 1, were full on during winter.

Posted on 4/17/14 at 10:29 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34866 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 10:29 am
Per Beck ( one of the precious few news sources way out in front re serious/controversial issues). The power needs were barely met; on plant closure away from rolling blackouts.

New EPA Regulation for next year. NG pumping stations can no longer be powered on (their own) NG power. Must use GRID electricity.

Big issue for next Winter. What will Obama do, when the closures - and folk freezing their arse off - bring rage down on his Adm.? Can't do the ACA temporarily suspend thingie; either the electricity arrives...or it don't.

The Three Stooges would do less damage behind that desk!

Utter....INSANITY!
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 10:47 am to
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New EPA Regulation for next year. NG pumping stations can no longer be powered on (their own) NG power. Must use GRID electricity.


What's the reasoning behind that brilliant idea?
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:03 am to
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What's the reasoning behind that brilliant idea?


Ivy League education
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:05 am to
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What's the reasoning behind that brilliant idea?
Crony capitalism. PPAs in place must be protected, desired PPAs must behelped along with regulations like this. PPA = Power Purchase Agreement = $$$ for companies like Duke, FLP, PG&E, etc.
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
6491 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:07 am to
another reason liberals must be dumped asap
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118664 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:14 am to
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New EPA Regulation for next year. NG pumping stations can no longer be powered on (their own) NG power. Must use GRID electricity.


What are NG pumping stations. Do you mean natural gas compressor stations?
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:19 am to
I have a friend that is an executive for a power cooperative in the South. He told me over lunch a few weeks ago, as I was complaining about rising electricity costs, that we have not seen anything yet. He referenced the Obama EPA restrictions on coal and other similar restrictions and said that they are expecting 100-200% increases in power bills in the next 2 years unless there is some intervention.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:28 am to
If it is coming, let it happen before 2016...
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:30 am to
I suppose they want everyone on the grid so, like health care, they can jack up paying citizens bill to cover Obama voters.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:31 am to
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I suppose they want everyone on the grid so, like health care, they can jack up paying citizens bill to cover Obama voters.


Precisely.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:33 am to
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He referenced the Obama EPA restrictions on coal and other similar restrictions and said that they are expecting 100-200% increases in power bills in the next 2 years unless there is some intervention.


Well Obama did tell us our electricity bills would be going up when he ran back in '07.

A man of vision they say. (sorrywoodrow)
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118664 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:33 am to
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If it is coming, let it happen before 2016...


And when it comes the Dems will have a solution...subsidies for low income energy users. It's a problem of our own making, a contrived problem. That's how progressives roll.


ETA: I hope people see this coming problem as totally preventable and unnecessary unless you see this has a tool to gain more power as a politician and a method to redistribute wealth.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 11:38 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57833 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:36 am to
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And when it comes the Dems will have a solution...subsidies for low income energy users. It's a problem of our own making, a contrived problem. That's how progressives roll.




No doubt. The," vunables" won't have to pay the increases.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:49 am to
This is why the left needs global warming, without it they have to write another narrative on why they need to regulate and tax more...
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118664 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:54 am to
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This is why the left needs global warming, without it they have to write another narrative on why they need to regulate and tax more...



Exactly.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34866 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 12:18 pm to
The Board always cuts to the chase. So it's getting pretty obvious that the Government manipulates *private* market price upward, and then offers subsidies to the now poor, for a vote.

Bottom line...the Government then becomes the arbiter of what people earn...or at least WHAT they have left to spend on what they desire. Government, "spread the wealth around".

This will be interesting. Sounds great. If one is poor. For those who desire to excel in their work ethic, in order to afford more affluence in life...those are screwed. Period.

Do any of yall have a clean-burning wood stove for sale? Or I'll trade a really nice piece for above the mantle; your choice of subject.

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