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A quote about armed resistance to government from someone who lived it

Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:23 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:23 pm
"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every police operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? If during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever was at hand? The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."

— Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner and author of The Gulag Archipelago, who spent 11 years in Soviet concentration camps.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76483 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:25 pm to
It's chilling to think about being in a position where you could have acted but didn't have the courage, BUT this is hindsight being 20/20.

They had no idea what was in the cards for them.

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:34 pm to
Standing up to one individual takes courage enough, standing up to your government takes an immeasurable amount.

You can be sure that you will suffer consequences, because the government will send more men if they don't get you the first time, and won't stop until enough people, through their courageous suffering, create enough casualties on the government to make it stop.

A really terrifying time to live for those people.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:41 pm to
He was convicted for the "crime" of anti-Soviet thought" for disparaging Stalin in a letter to a friend during WWII.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:49 pm to
Good thing we've got this guy.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:52 pm to
Quite posting my pic without my permission. I feel bullied when you do that.
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 5:47 pm to
Wow, that's powerful.

Im really glad someone found this from a real person. I wasn't getting anywhere quoting "a people should not be afraid of their government, a government should be afraid of its people" V for Vendetta. Person who lived it >>> awesome movie/graphic novel.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

You can be sure that you will suffer consequences, because the government will send more men after your wife and children if they don't get you the first time


Fixed.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34866 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:12 pm to
The Government tyrants always believe they are on the side of the 'people'; that they are the *good* guys. Anybody that resist government authority...or assists or even tacitly sympathizes with them that do...is complicit and deserving of suppression.

People will only resist if they are SURE that their neighbor will too. Because if most ALL resist...then the mob-rulers become the hunted, and not the hunter.

Forget cell phones and I-net. Word will travel by mouth and spread like a virus if a Gulag-type scenario ever develops over here. The real problem will be that if people do rise up against...they end up destroying the very entity that secures basic life goods and services for them. At least in the shortrun.

The powers that be knows this. I have no idea how this stacks up. They could try to heal this place by NOT LYING. For starters. Doubt that will happen.

Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Quite posting my pic without my permission. I feel bullied when you do that.
Don't be such a pussy.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70851 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

Quite posting my pic without my permission. I feel bullied when you do that.


The OT says you're a wuss and wants to know if you even lift.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:04 am to
A.S. is one of my favorite authors that I have read in the last forty odd years. "The Gulag Archipelago" should be required reading in some part of high schools curriculum across the nation regardless of how much bitching it would produce because it was "too hard" for the students. I read all three paperback volumes(1000 pages each) when I should have been doing English home work, it was/is a very compelling piece of literature. social science (with respect to the cultural differences of Russia and the world), history of the Soviet Union that he experienced in Siberia as all of the prisoners endured it. The camps were labor camps to build the infrastructure of the country under Stalin and others that followed him for thirty plus years.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:36 am to
Paraphrasing...

A.S. is on the paddy wagon taking him to the pokey. The guard asks him what was his crime and sentence.

A.S. said, "I got 15 years for doing absolutely nothing."

The guard said, "You're a liar. Everybody knows the sentence for doing absolutely nothing is only 10 years."

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