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Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2448 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:08 pm
I recently discovered my daughter had her credit card turned over to collections for delinquent payments. She received a notification in the mail from the collection agency but she is still getting phone calls and emails about making a payment from the credit card company. Can she still be charged late fees and interest even after the account has been turned over?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126942 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Can she still be charged late fees and interest even after the account has been turned over?
It depends on her card provider's specific agreement which your daughter signed when she opened the account but in most cases, yes.

In fact, many card agreements provide for additional fees over and above 'the usual' late fees if an account has to be turned over to a collector.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:06 pm to
2 questions:

1) Has it been charged off?

2) If it has been charged off, the collection agenct might be working for the credit card company, which is not the same as the debt being sold to the collection agency. If it has not been charged off, the collection agency certainly is working on behalf of the credit card company.

If it has not been charged off, yes, late fees and interest will continue to accrue. If it has been charged off, no more fees or interest will be added by the credit card company. Not sure if the collection agency can add some sort of fee to it.
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2448 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:43 pm to
All I know is that on her credit report it says "Closed by Grantor"
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:01 pm to
Usually, but not always, once a card gets 90 days past due it will be closed by grantor, meaning, she can never use it again (even if she gets current).

If it's charged off, there is usually a code that says "charged off" or something similar. However, there can sometimes be a reporting delay.

Is this something where you/her are going to contact the card company/collector and arrage to get it handled, or are y'all just going to lay low? I only ask because if it's something you/her are going to handle, call the CC company and ask them directly what happened.

Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:25 pm to
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daughter


pics to determine ability to pay off debt..

Just kiddin, the big deal would be if it were charged off. Once that happens it takes 7 years to clear off of debt, sometimes longer. If not charged off, work directly with the card company, do not work with the collections agency..they can't guarantee it will be cleared on her credit.

It is crazy sometimes when a card company don't care about getting paid in full....they would rather not bother and let collections chase you, instead of accepting full payment and removing their negative credit from your report.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:29 pm to
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It is crazy sometimes when a card company don't care about getting paid in full....they would rather not bother and let collections chase you, instead of accepting full payment and removing their negative credit from your repor


It makes perfect sense. Collection companies exist for a reason. Cost.

But I understand where you're coming from.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:42 pm to
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It makes perfect sense. Collection companies exist for a reason. Cost.

But I understand where you're coming from.



But, when someone finds out about the mistake and calls to offer you full payment, it costs them nothing at that point to accept and delete the credit damaging info. Shouldn't the person be rewarded for getting full payment, albeit late?

Regardless, it's a rat race that sucks for the consumer who wants to do right by paying.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:45 pm to
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But, when someone finds out about the mistake and calls to offer you full payment, it costs them nothing at that point to accept and delete the credit damaging info. Shouldn't the person be rewarded for getting full payment, albeit late?



Well, there are some IT issues with it. The "file" is sent to the collector, so if the original creditor starts accepting offers, and that doesn't translate to the collection company, you are opening up a can of worms ie Federal government lawsuits etc when the collection company keeps attempting to collect a debt that no longer exists.

At least, I could see that happening. This is a highly regulated industry with pretty stiff penalties and damages. Which has some "dirty" collectors on one side and some plaintiff trolls on the other, so if you're one of the "good" guys, you need to stay clean as a whistle.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
1315 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:48 pm to
No they should pay and the negative should stick. a negative doesn't affect your credit for that long if it is paid off.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35473 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:39 pm to
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they would rather not bother and let collections chase you, instead of accepting full payment and removing their negative credit from your report


Well, then they wouldn't be giving an accurate report of the credit delinquencies in question.

Payment in full for removing negative credit is bullshite. You do the crime you live with it on your report for 7 years. Not a shred of sympathy here.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:27 pm to
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It is crazy sometimes when a card company don't care about getting paid in full....they would rather not bother and let collections chase you, instead of accepting full payment and removing their negative credit from your report


I don't think this is it. Trust me, they want to get paid - especially if the balance is big enough and they sue someone for it.

The banking regulators require the account to be charged off when it's 180 days late.

If the charge-off is paid in full, the late payments won't be generally removed from the credit report, however, the account will be changed to something like "Charge off - paid in full".

The problem is that the FICO score system doesn't really treat a charge off - paid in full any better than it does a plain old charge off.

To me, if someone has a charge off then works to get it paid off, they should get some benefit from that. There should still be some sting on the credit report - after all, you did go late - but it should be better than not paying it at all.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:39 pm to
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To me, if someone has a charge off then works to get it paid off, they should get some benefit from that. There should still be some sting on the credit report - after all, you did go late - but it should be better than not paying it at all.



I agree. You want to encourage people to pay their debts. Not make it pointless for them to do so.
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6784 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:53 pm to
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a negative doesn't affect your credit for that long if it is paid off.


Not true. Your FICO score won't benefit at all if you pay it off. It will affect your score for 7 years from the "date of first delinquency" which is the first late payment that eventually caused the charge off. The only thing that will change is they will note it on your report something like "charged off, paid in full" which LOOKS better to future creditors if they can look past your FICO score. Some mortgages require you pay off any charge offs that are on your report because they can still sue you until the statute of limitations passes. The only case where paying a charge off helps your score is if it's a revolving debt that's counting against your revolving debt utilization.
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