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Pacman vs. Bradley DOS fight thread - dedicated to warhawk

Posted on 4/12/14 at 8:22 am
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 8:22 am
After watching the 24/7's twice, I'm off the fence and will be rooting for Bradley.




This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 8:28 am
Posted by samson'sseed
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 8:47 am to
Timothy Bradley has lost 3 fights in a row. I don't care what the judges decided. Boxing decisions are entirely political.

Pacman won every single round of their first fight. There's no way Bradley is going to be able to beat Pacman after getting beat that bad in their first fight.

Bradley got beat almost as bad in his next fight. The little Russian guy floored Bradley in the first round and the last round and in between he had Bradley staggering all over the ring...literally and admittedly out on his feet.

Marquez clearly outpointed Bradley.

Bradley's record should be 28-3, not 31-0.

Bradley is also a stupid jerk. He claims he wanted to kill himself after getting his gift decision against pacman. Oh Boo Hoo! That's like someone saying they were going to kill themselves because they were given $500 they didn't earn.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:13 am to
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Bradley is also a stupid jerk. He claims he wanted to kill himself after getting his gift decision against pacman. Oh Boo Hoo! That's like someone saying they were going to kill themselves because they were given $500 they didn't earn.



Your hate for Bradley is a bit ridiculous. He came from nothing, works his arse off, gets almost no respect from the boxing community, and he's by all accounts a family man.

Oh and he's extremely well spoken.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:29 am to
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Timothy Bradley has lost 3 fights in a row. I don't care what the judges decided



He beat Provodnikov and Marquez.....and I didn't find his fight with Marquez to be close at all. It was competitive but Marquez flat out lost. And Bradley slugged it out with the slugger and still beat him. If anything, it showed how tough Bradley is and he won't fold like Victor Ortiz when he gets in trouble.
Posted by samson'sseed
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:34 am to
I don't hate him.

But anyone he claims they were thinking about committing suicide because they got a gift is a jerk.
Posted by samson'sseed
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:36 am to
Was he beating the Russian lying flat on his back in the 1st round? Or was he beating him while lying flat on his back in the last round? Was he beating him when he admittedly was out on his feet in (I think) it was the 3rd round?

Try watching the Marquez fight with the sound turned down. The announcers were biased...that whole decision was poltical because the promoters didn't want Marquez vs. Pacman VI. Marquez outpointed him in that fight and it wasn't even close.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:55 am to
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Was he beating the Russian lying flat on his back in the 1st round? Or was he beating him while lying flat on his back in the last round? Was he beating him when he admittedly was out on his feet in (I think) it was the 3rd round?

Boxing is scored using a 10pt system over 12 rounds. Bradley won the majority of the rounds, therefore winning the fight. Congratulations, you found three rounds where it went Provodnikov's way. Now tell me about the other nine.

I had Bradley winning 7-5 but with the knockdown in the 12th I scored it 114-113 Bradley.

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Marquez outpointed him in that fight and it wasn't even close.

Compubox says Bradley outlanded Marquez by 15 punches overall and outlanded Marquez by 44 with the jab.

The jab and work rate were the difference in that fight. Seriously, your hate for Bradley is really obvious.
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 11:59 am
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:02 pm to
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Timothy Bradley has lost 3 fights in a row.
Wut.

The Marquez and Provodnikov fights were close, but I had Bradley winning both of them. 116-112 and 114-113, respectively. It would be quite a stretch to have Marquez winning that fight. Provodnikov was close and could've gone either way, but I think Bradley won.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:06 pm to
Re: that weigh-in pic, it's refreshing that none of the trainers/promoters/advisors are blatantly dick-riding their way to celebrity, as Leonard Ellerbe is always doing. /rant
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Re: that weigh-in pic, it's refreshing that none of the trainers/promoters/advisors are blatantly dick-riding their way to celebrity, as Leonard Ellerbe is always doing. /rant

I'm just glad I won't have to see Al Haymon's sidekick Sam Watson and his two sons standing behind anyone in the main event clapping like they will on May 3.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:27 pm to
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his two sons
So that's who those two douchebags are. Always wondered.
Posted by Marciano1
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:41 pm to
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So that's who those two douchebags are. Always wondered.

I swear their only job is to just appear next to the Haymon fighter in the ring and just clap, clap, clap. What's funny is when both fighters are with Haymon and one of them stands behind fighter A and the other stands behind fighter B.
Posted by My Daddy
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:18 pm to
Pulling for the Pacman in this. I feel like he got the shaft in their first fight.

I still want to see Pacman vs Mayweather. (fingers crossed)
Posted by samson'sseed
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:42 pm to
There were 2 knockdowns in the Provodnikov fight.

Did you figure in both 10-8 rounds?

I know how boxing is scored, and I didn't have that one close.

Compubox is total bullshite. Nobody can determine and count exactly which punches landed. Compubox is just as biased as the judges.
Posted by Marciano1
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:51 pm to
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There were 2 knockdowns in the Provodnikov fight.

Did you figure in both 10-8 rounds?

The only official knockdown was in the 12th. The other was ruled a slip.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:54 pm to
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Compubox is just as biased as the judges.

Posted by JG77056
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:12 pm to
Bradley has no shot tonight. Won't knock Pac man out and no way he wins another decision. They even brought in one of their more biased Pacquiao judges.
Posted by samson'sseed
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:30 pm to
I just rewatched the fight on youtube.

LINK

I had forgotten the first knockdown was wrongly ruled a slip.

I gave Provodknov a 10-8 round for that one anyway. I scored the fight 116-112 for Provodnikov with that included. It would be 116-113 without.

I had Provodnikov winning rounds 1,2,6,7,11, and 12. Actually, the ref should have stopped the fight with 12 seconds left. Bradley could not continue.

I gave Bradley rounds 3,4,5, and 9.

I scored rounds 8 and 10 even.

Bradley was staggering in rounds 2, 6, and 12. He was running scared in round 7.

Round 11 was a big one for Provodnikov, but strangely Lederman scored that one for Bradley. I think he was taking a senile snooze.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:06 pm to
4 hours away
Posted by Marciano1
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Member since Jun 2009
18401 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:52 pm to
I wish they'd put Oscar Valdez on the televised portion of the undercard. That guy will be a force for a long time.
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