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Hadron Collider finds new form of matter

Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:07 am
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:07 am
sciencealert.com

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Experiments at the Large Hadron Collider, the overachieving device famous for finding the Higgs boson, have confirmed that a new particle called Z(4430) exists, and is the best evidence to date of a new form of matter called a tetraquark.


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Right now, scientists still aren't 100% sure a tetraquark would obey the laws of physics. Thomas Cohen at the University of Maryland in College Park told New Scientist: "Our computers aren't yet big enough to solve the theory from first principles."


It would be awesome to have been smart enough/driven enough to be one of these scientist.
Posted by LiguhTiguh
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:10 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:15 am to
preciate that courtesy reply
Posted by SohCahToa
New Orleans, La
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:17 am to
Can't even imagine how cool it would be to be the one to discover some crazy scientific shite like this.
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:18 am to
Damn science, you crazy.
Posted by geauxtigers6492
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:31 am to
So what does it mean?
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:31 am to
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Right now, scientists still aren't 100% sure a tetraquark would obey the laws of physics.


If they exist, they most certainly obey the laws of physics. If they do not conform to currently understood scientific laws, then perhaps they are in need of revision.

Nothing can escape physics.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:31 am to
Personally I have always been pretty satisfied with the regular ole boring matter. Hell it would at least obey the laws of physics. That's all we need.... Another law breaker.
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 12:33 am
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:34 am to
It's amazing what you can do with enough grant money.
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:36 am to
Anyone else think it's weird that they spend all this money crashing hardons together
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:36 am to
The physics taught in high school is all wrong and is simply a generalization used to teach principles that can be applied in an everyday environment (one with angular momentum and large bodies)
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:19 am to
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"Our computers aren't yet big enough to solve the theory from first principles."


Then how do they know it exists? And if it is a "NEW form of matter" does this not make all previous scientific conclusions a mute point?
Posted by ProbyOne
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:41 am to
Yes, completely silent.
Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:43 am to
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does this not make all previous scientific conclusions a mute point


I can still hear it.
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:37 am to
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does this not make all previous scientific conclusions a mute point?


No. This form of matter was predicted by theory, it just never was created before.

And it's spelled "moot".
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:01 am to
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So what does it mean?



It is basic research done to better understand how the laws of physics explain the universe

I'm sure that sounds pompous and irrelevant but this kind of research could end up being revolutionary in practical (but perhaps presently unpredictable) ways. Our understanding of quantum mechanics has done exactly this to human technology over the last century.
Posted by SohCahToa
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:05 am to
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It is basic research done to better understand how the laws of physics explain the universe I'm sure that sounds pompous and irrelevant but this kind of research could end up being revolutionary in practical (but perhaps presently unpredictable) ways. Our understanding of quantum mechanics has done exactly this to human technology over the last century.


Soo..

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What does it mean?
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:25 am to
it means we should all be excited about what could be around the corner
Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:41 am to
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This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 8:25 am
Posted by Mizzoufan26
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Member since Sep 2012
17206 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 4:26 am to
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They are predicting a possible new advancement with more research into it.


Wow, so something like the Iphone 7 being released without even having to stop at Iphone 6?

Amazing...
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