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Thinking of selling our rental property

Posted on 4/11/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 2:57 pm
My wife and I have a rent house that provides some additional income. Right now we are pretty much at a point where we arent able to save money monthly with both mortgages and a car note, student loan, etc.

If we sell our Rental we would be able to payoff all of our debt minus our primary mortgage, and we would also be able to take what is left over to refinance the primary mortgage, get a lower rate and lower our monthly note allowing us to save a substantial amount monthly.

Also, for a year we are going to one income because she starts school in june.

what do the more money savvy people on the MT board think?? TIA
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84936 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 3:18 pm to
Location of rental?
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 3:39 pm to
Center of Lafayette. off johnston and guilbeau
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4231 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 3:48 pm to
Compare the NOI (net operating income) and debt payment (if any) on the rental to interest expense on whatever loan you are going to pay off.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50335 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 5:09 pm to
Unless you NEED the cash, don't sell an income generating asset.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
36919 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

Right now we are pretty much at a point where we arent able to save money monthly with both mortgages and a car note, student loan, etc.


So what happens when something big breaks on the rental property and you have to spend $3,000 to get it fixed? Do you have the money for that? Do you have the ability to finance that?

quote:

Also, for a year we are going to one income because she starts school in june.


If you can't save additional money now with two incomes, how are you going to be able to live on one income?

Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:43 pm to
These are the obstacles I am seeing as potential problems.
Posted by simonizer
no
Member since Oct 2008
1647 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:52 pm to
I think you had better take into account the tax implications of selling the property. You need to know what taxes you may have to pay on the sale due to your basis in the property now that you have taken depreciation expense on the rental. If you have a tax adviser, I would consult with him/her before you do anything.
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:33 pm to
We lived in the house for 7 years before we borrowed against it to byy our residence now .

We still have quite a bit of equity in it as well.

What would some of the tax implications be?
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4231 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:20 am to
quote:

What would some of the tax implications be?

I think he is implying that you might have to pay the government some money if you sell.
Posted by Boudreaux in SF
silicon valley
Member since May 2005
530 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:44 am to
quote:

We lived in the house for 7 years before we borrowed against it to byy our residence now .


If you have resided in the rental house for 2 out of the prior 5 years the house can be sold and the sale of primary residence exclusion of $500,000 for married couple ($250,000 for single)can be used to offset the gain on sale.

quote:

We still have quite a bit of equity in it as well.


Equity is not a factor in determining gain on sale.

quote:

What would some of the tax implications be?


You will be taxed on Gain on Sale

Basically:

Sales Price - Selling Costs - Basis + Depreciation = Gain on Sale.

Another factor to consider is how was the property acquired:

If purchased by you, your basis in the Property is purchase price + any additional costs of improvements that you can document less any depreciation taken on the rental.

If inherited or received as a gift from a still living relative, your basis will be the same as the basis of that relative plus any additional costs of improvements that you can document less any depreciation taken on the rental.

If inherited from a deceased relative it becomes more tricky to calculate basis. Due to the death there is a step up in basis to either the Fair Market Value of the Property at date of death or the appraised value of the Property at date of death. Very seldom is an appraisal made at Date of Death unless we are talking about an estate of over $5,000,000 for the prior few years. Obtaining a Fair Market Value appraisal for an at least 8 year old transfer of Property is difficult.

Hope this helps.


Posted by theoldwiseone33
University of Louisiana
Member since May 2012
492 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:58 am to
Dms, I'll be happy to give you a free market analysis so you know what you can expect to walk away with once you sell. Soldbystephen at yahoo dot com
Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Sales Price - Selling Costs - Basis + Depreciation = Gain on Sale.


Key is "+ Depreciation" - you have to recapture
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 6:41 pm to
Why don't you go up $50 a month on the rent and see if you like it better?

Is your rental cash flow positive?? If so keep it. It is savings.

Sell the car first and buy a used one for cash.
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:25 pm to
stephen H?
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