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Vance McAllister's scandal score
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:02 pm
How bad is this scandal? Let's go the (un)Official Scoreboard to find out:
Higher scores = more forgivable
Lower scores = more serious offense
Penalties:
Married? yes: -1
Partner was married? Yes: -1
Public funds involved? tough to tell at this point
Used Family Values/religion as major component of campaign? Yes: -2
Covered up scandal? no: 0
Caught on tape? yes: -2
Called out others for infidelity/scandal? No: 0
Mitigating factors
Women was hot? supposedly yes: +1
Wife has forgiven him? unknown (worth +2)
Ideologue? No: 0
Long-track record of accomplishments? No: 0
Had a track record of philandering before he was elected? No: 0
To me looks like a net of -5. Not looking too good for ol' Vance. If he becomes a hard core ideologue and his wife forgives him publicly, he is still negative, but he has a chance.
If you don't like the rules don't blame me, I didn't write 'em. Well technically I did...so if you think something needs to be added, let me know!
Higher scores = more forgivable
Lower scores = more serious offense
Penalties:
Married? yes: -1
Partner was married? Yes: -1
Public funds involved? tough to tell at this point
Used Family Values/religion as major component of campaign? Yes: -2
Covered up scandal? no: 0
Caught on tape? yes: -2
Called out others for infidelity/scandal? No: 0
Mitigating factors
Women was hot? supposedly yes: +1
Wife has forgiven him? unknown (worth +2)
Ideologue? No: 0
Long-track record of accomplishments? No: 0
Had a track record of philandering before he was elected? No: 0
To me looks like a net of -5. Not looking too good for ol' Vance. If he becomes a hard core ideologue and his wife forgives him publicly, he is still negative, but he has a chance.
If you don't like the rules don't blame me, I didn't write 'em. Well technically I did...so if you think something needs to be added, let me know!
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:06 pm to BigJim
Well it did increase his name recognition, like most people I had no idea who he was before this.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:10 pm to BigJim
quote:
so if you think something needs to be added, let me know!
You forgot "Republican" as a penalty, probably -1 (or -2).
"Democrat" and "Pro abortion" as mitigating factors. Probably +1 each. (And, which he is neither).
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:11 pm to BigJim
I would hate to see your list if he had gotten a piece of arse. A lot of questions for one kiss. 
He did wrong. He will pay for it either politically, personally or both.
He did wrong. He will pay for it either politically, personally or both.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:15 pm to BigJim
add "Gay affair"
it's worth +5
it's worth +5
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:16 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:
I would hate to see your list if he had gotten a piece of arse. A lot of questions for one kiss.
2 people who have known each other that long, kissing like that?
As a friend of mine would say, "Dey frickin'."
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:16 pm to BigJim
quote:
How bad is this scandal? Let's go the (un)Official Scoreboard to find out:
Higher scores = more forgivable
Lower scores = more serious offense
Penalties:
Married? yes: -1
Partner was married? Yes: -1
Public funds involved? tough to tell at this point
Used Family Values/religion as major component of campaign? Yes: -2
Covered up scandal? no: 0
Caught on tape? yes: -2
Called out others for infidelity/scandal? No: 0
Mitigating factors
Women was hot? supposedly yes: +1
Wife has forgiven him? unknown (worth +2)
Ideologue? No: 0
Long-track record of accomplishments? No: 0
Had a track record of philandering before he was elected? No: 0
To me looks like a net of -5. Not looking too good for ol' Vance. If he becomes a hard core ideologue and his wife forgives him publicly, he is still negative, but he has a chance.
If you don't like the rules don't blame me, I didn't write 'em. Well technically I did...so if you think something needs to be added, let me know!
Two critiques. 1. There should be a "criminal activity" criterion (like Eliot Spitzer, David Vitter, etc). Probably wouldn't apply here, and you kind of noted it as a "public funds" thing.
2. From a pure "character" standpoint, I can't imagine too many things lower than boning the wife of a life-long friend (or any friend) and business colleague. I would rate that pretty high up the moral turpitude scale. Much worse than cheating with a straight up prostitute.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:17 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
I can't imagine too many things lower than boning the wife of a life-long friend (or any friend)
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:17 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:
I would hate to see your list if he had gotten a piece of arse. A lot of questions for one kiss.
Pretty sure he already confessed to an affair. For grown ups that typically includes sex.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:19 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
I can't imagine too many things lower than boning the wife of a life-long friend (or any friend)
That's a legal "sin" that to me almost seems sociopathic. Worse than a lot of behaviors that are criminalized.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:19 pm to BigJim
quote:
Public funds involved? tough to tell at this point
Can't we say yes to this?
A cosmetology worker giving $5200 to a family friend's campaign just for shits and giggles? +the husband
If my best friend (of me and my wife) ran for President I might contribute $100...and I'm alot better off than a cosmetology worker.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:22 pm to lsuroadie
quote:
Can't we say yes to this?
A cosmetology worker giving $5200 to a family friend's campaign just for shits and giggles? +the husband
If my best friend (of me and my wife) ran for President I might contribute $100...and I'm alot better off than a cosmetology worker.
1. Do we actually know that family's financial situation? Isn't the husband a business man of some kind.
2. Donors and their relatives receiving political jobs at taxpayer expense is neither new nor illegal. It's very tacky, but extremely common--hell, damned near universal.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:22 pm to BigJim
quote:
Mitigating factors
Women was hot? supposedly yes: +1
Wife has forgiven him? unknown (worth +2)
Ideologue? No: 0
Long-track record of accomplishments? No: 0
Had a track record of philandering before he was elected? No: 0
pfffft..that chick had stopped breathing and Vance performed Mouth-to-Mouth resuscitation.
Dude is a HERO!!!
Mitigating Factor:
Performed a heroic action? Yes +1,000,000
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:23 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
Pretty sure he already confessed to an affair. For grown ups that typically includes sex.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:28 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
For grown ups that typically includes sex.
According to my ex-governor and our ex-president a blowjob is not sex. Just saying.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:32 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
You forgot "Republican" as a penalty, probably -1 (or -2).
"Democrat" and "Pro abortion" as mitigating factors. Probably +1 each. (And, which he is neither).
Well I have the family values/religious score in there. You think that doesn't capture it enough?
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:34 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
You forgot "Republican" as a penalty, probably -1 (or -2).
"Democrat" and "Pro abortion" as mitigating factors. Probably +1 each. (And, which he is neither).
This is a semi-accurate observation. I think it has more to do with posturing and perceptions. Clinton could survive so much shite because he was always known to be a scoundrel and people's expectations for his personal behavior were fairly low.
On the other hand, a Democrat like Elliot Spitzer, who made bones as a hard-arse of an Attorney General, couldn't survive a scandal almost identical to the one that David Vitter breezed right through.
Btw, Louisiana politicians aren't known in Washington (or anywhere in the nation) for their high standards of personal or professional integrity. That has to reflect upon La. voters. I'm not sure we (as constituents of this state) have place to throw stones at any constituency in this country, D or R. We're right up there with Illinois and Rhode Island, probably just slightly better than DC (local govt) and slightly worse than NJ.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:35 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:
According to my ex-governor and our ex-president a blowjob is not sex. Just saying.
How'd that work out for him when he was damn near disbarred for perjuring himself?
I believe his law license was suspended for a number of years.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:41 pm to BigJim
quote:
Well I have the family values/religious score in there. You think that doesn't capture it enough?
Maybe that accounts for the "Republican" part - but it doesn't nearly account for all the pluses of being a pro-abortion Democrat in a scandal like this.
Barney Frank and Bill Clinton, alone - prove that. Remember Larry "Wide Stance" Craig, Bob "My goodness that was a long time ago" Livingston and Herman "I get it - I'm a black Republican" Cain?
Really, only Vitter has survived anything like this scandal as a Republican - with the possible exception of Newt Gingrich. And I can't name the last Dem run out of office because of sexual impropriety.
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