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Who will lead the Saints in rushing this year?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:05 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:05 am
a. Robinson
b. Ingram
c. Pierre
d. draftee/UDFA
b. Ingram
c. Pierre
d. draftee/UDFA
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:13 am to Neauxla
Barring injury, Ingram easily
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:29 am to Neauxla
I re watched the eagles game yesterday and I have to go with ingram.
Although he still showed massive signs of limited vision past the first level. When confronted with the option to bounce inside or outside; he always goes to the sideline. He needs to learn from pierre to stay on the inside until you have to go outside; you want to save that sideline move until there are no other options and then go to the sideline. Pierre (though he didnt play in said game) still follows his blocks soooo well; it's what has made his career.
He's got some quick feet though; the big thing I noticed late in season was him hitting the holes between the tackles much better. He didn't have many runs where he ran into the back of an olineman as he did so much early in his career. His first level vision was greatly improved.
The main thing that surprises me about Ingram from my view of him when we drafted him is how quick he is, and conversely; how little he has in the form of a power move. He's great at little subtle jukes to get another couple of yards but he can't bull over guys at all. His go to move is to turn around and ram his back into guys if he has to result to power.
Although he still showed massive signs of limited vision past the first level. When confronted with the option to bounce inside or outside; he always goes to the sideline. He needs to learn from pierre to stay on the inside until you have to go outside; you want to save that sideline move until there are no other options and then go to the sideline. Pierre (though he didnt play in said game) still follows his blocks soooo well; it's what has made his career.
He's got some quick feet though; the big thing I noticed late in season was him hitting the holes between the tackles much better. He didn't have many runs where he ran into the back of an olineman as he did so much early in his career. His first level vision was greatly improved.
The main thing that surprises me about Ingram from my view of him when we drafted him is how quick he is, and conversely; how little he has in the form of a power move. He's great at little subtle jukes to get another couple of yards but he can't bull over guys at all. His go to move is to turn around and ram his back into guys if he has to result to power.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 8:32 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:32 am to Pendulum
Exactly. Ingram is not just a power back. As soon as we all realize this well be better off
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:32 am to Pendulum
I really don't know where Ingram got that reputation of being a power back.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:35 am to Hoodoo Man
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I really don't know where Ingram got that reputation of being a power back.
I think it mostly comes from his ridiculous college o-line where the opposing team was so fricking winded and beat up; he could run over guys. Most draft anaylsis' pegged him as a guy that was a pounder with some quick moves. Although the pounder part hasn't panned out (unless you consider pounding with little success "pounding", the "just keep giving him the ball and eventually he'll break through mentality"); his game has enough to it that he still has potential.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 8:38 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:38 am to Pendulum
His progression has been unusual, that's for sure.
But it's not that big of a deal anymore.
It's not like he'll be old and tired after 6 years like it used to be.
But it's not that big of a deal anymore.
It's not like he'll be old and tired after 6 years like it used to be.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:40 am to Hoodoo Man
I hope to see him improve in the passing/screen game (showed a little of this towards the tail of last season when we had to throw to him) this year and keep progressing in pass blocking. If a team doesn't know for sure whether we're passing or running when he's in; it will greatly improve his running game aswell.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 8:41 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:43 am to Pendulum
He didn't get many snaps last season, but his 4.9 ypc makes me pretty encouraged.
Actively encouraged.
Actively encouraged.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:59 am to Pendulum
and how much will we see a more heavy run game?
Saints rushing and passing attempts by season-
2013 391 651
2012 370 671
2011 431 662
2010 380 661
2009 468 544
2008 398 632
2007 392 652
2006 472 580
Statistically you'll likely have more rushes with more wins but there is no avoiding the numbers. The years winning a SB and going to the NFCCG were clearly much more run weighted. It's around a hundred more rushes than passes. That's only a diff of 6 per game- but it piles up as ya can see.
I dunno how the carries will shake out but the last 4 games of last year might fortell-
Robinson 39 carries 170 yds
Ingram 44 carries 249 yards
Project that to 16 games-
Robinson 156 carries 680 yds
Ingram 176 carries 996 yds
Total 336 carries 1676 yds
per the '06 & '09 seasons that would leave a 100 or so more for PT23, Cadet, etc
Saints rushing and passing attempts by season-
2013 391 651
2012 370 671
2011 431 662
2010 380 661
2009 468 544
2008 398 632
2007 392 652
2006 472 580
Statistically you'll likely have more rushes with more wins but there is no avoiding the numbers. The years winning a SB and going to the NFCCG were clearly much more run weighted. It's around a hundred more rushes than passes. That's only a diff of 6 per game- but it piles up as ya can see.
I dunno how the carries will shake out but the last 4 games of last year might fortell-
Robinson 39 carries 170 yds
Ingram 44 carries 249 yards
Project that to 16 games-
Robinson 156 carries 680 yds
Ingram 176 carries 996 yds
Total 336 carries 1676 yds
per the '06 & '09 seasons that would leave a 100 or so more for PT23, Cadet, etc
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 9:11 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:07 am to Neauxla
Coaches want Robinson. Probably will be Robinson due to more opportunities. I think ultimately Ingram will win out and get a rich $300K contract next season with another team.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:31 am to Neauxla
Jeremy Hill (after we draft him in the 3rd round).
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:37 am to Midget Death Squad
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I think ultimately Ingram will win out and get a rich $300K contract next season with another team.
Considering how RBs have been devalued,that sounds about right. Ingram is still the poster boy for "great potential" and might rob some team of a little more than the $300K.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:29 pm to Neauxla
I could see Ingram going for 1000-1100 yards next season. He will be fed. I just hope they can focus on getting him more involved in the passing game so we aren't as predictable, especially with Sproles being gone.
I expect Khiry will get his fair share of carries so we can decide if we want to keep him and let Ingram walk or maybe resign Ingram and trade Khiry in the Ivory mold.
I expect Khiry will get his fair share of carries so we can decide if we want to keep him and let Ingram walk or maybe resign Ingram and trade Khiry in the Ivory mold.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:09 pm to Neauxla
I'll say PT just because every year someone is supposed to take the lead rusher role away from him but it hasn't happened yet.
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