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Why is Tulane So Bad in Baseball (since Katrina)?

Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Guido Merkens
Member since Mar 2006
4346 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:55 pm
These guys were rocking it in the early 2000's.

What is your theory on their decline?

- no Tops $ ?
- tough academics ?
- recruiting ?
- Rick Jones does not GAF ?
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

What is your theory on their decline?



LSU got good again?
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8790 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:57 pm to
Didn't we just do this a few days ago?
Posted by Guido Merkens
Member since Mar 2006
4346 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:58 pm to
did not see it... will search
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:16 pm to
This is at least the 20th time I've seen this one.
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3333 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:28 pm to
Among other things:

-Skyrocketing tuition
-Too many committed players signing MLB contracts before enrolling
-New transfer rules

College baseball is very tricky now, especially at high-tuition schools. Rice is the last private school to win the NC and that was 11 years ago.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71957 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:30 pm to
Jonny Kaplan graduated
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13617 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

LSU got good again?
LSU was usually good then, has nothing to do with it.


quote:

What is your theory on their decline? - no Tops $ ? - tough academics ? - recruiting ? - Rick Jones does not GAF ?


It's a tough question hard to really say for sure why they have fallen so far.
Tuition costs going up has hurt, losing almost an entire recruiting class to the draft hurt. They had really good assistant coaches when they were good. Jim Schlossnagle, Brian Cleary, Mark Kingston etc. I think the biggest thing is they haven't replaced those guys. They finally got a highly rated recruiting class this year, but still they look awful. Hitting coach is a big problem right now, IMO.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:33 pm to
I was surprised to see how many guys y'all had hitting below or right around .200
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13617 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:35 pm to
It's insane, team batting average around .230

They have a couple of guys with close to 20 at-bats and 0 hits. Two other guys starting in the OF lately are at like .150 and .100
Posted by Corilla
Member since Dec 2013
120 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:45 pm to
Tons of talent in this state that goes to Southeastern, LSU, Delgado, LSU-E, ULL etc.

Jones has missed badly on recruiting and the assistant coaches are jokes.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13617 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:47 pm to
Why did you disappear last night? We had some questions for you.


ETA: Tulane has always done a lot of out of state recruiting. Bogusevic, Emaus, Gautreau, Jurries, Sutter etc. A lot of kids in La cant afford Tulane.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 4:51 pm
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16644 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Tons of talent in this state that goes to Southeastern, LSU, Delgado, LSU-E, ULL etc. Jones has missed badly on recruiting and the assistant coaches are jokes.


All of this.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13617 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 6:06 pm to
I think Sutter is at least a decent pitching coach they're not doing well this year, but they've been good under him. Gautreau seems to be pretty bad as a hitting coach though.
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 6:12 pm to
I thought I heard something about them closing one of the colleges within the university that most of the athletes were in. They didn't have to meet the same academic standards to be admitted into that college, or something along those lines.

Not sure if there was any truth to it or nor
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30865 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

Hitting coach is a big problem right now, IMO.


Hire Javi.
Posted by SparkyAvenger
MLB U
Member since Dec 2013
832 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 6:53 pm to
Hire Tim Esmay.

:)
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Hire Javi.



Yes, please. He'll make our...I mean your...hitting so much better.

Posted by LSUTigers1986
Member since Mar 2014
1336 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

LSU got good again?

Tulane went to Omaha in 2001 and 2005.

LSU won the national title in 2000 and went to Omaha in 2003 and 2004.

So LSU was certainly good during Tulane's peak.

It was more of Louisiana baseball was king. LSU being THE program in the 90s helped recruiting throughout the state of Louisiana. Even ULL went to Omaha in 2000. The early 2000s was tops in LA.

Now for post-Katrina Tulane.. They completely de-emphasized athletics for a while. It's hard to win with no support from the school.

Plus Jones is probably just mailing it in now.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278151 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 7:08 pm to
they need to hire Frank Cazeaux
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