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land clearing: how difficult is it to turn <10 yr old woods into pasture?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:31 am
and what sort of equipment do you need? lets say 10 acres just for example.
my guess, without knowing anything, is that you would need to cut down the larger trees, and probably burn them in piles. then i have no idea what to do with the stumps, maybe dig them up (sounds like an enormous amount of work) or use a stump grinder (sounds expensive), although they should be pretty small if it's <10 yrs old. maybe cut them very low to the ground and abandon in place? then bush-hog the rest?
bonus question: how much $$ and time does it take to put up a mile of barbed wire fence?
my guess, without knowing anything, is that you would need to cut down the larger trees, and probably burn them in piles. then i have no idea what to do with the stumps, maybe dig them up (sounds like an enormous amount of work) or use a stump grinder (sounds expensive), although they should be pretty small if it's <10 yrs old. maybe cut them very low to the ground and abandon in place? then bush-hog the rest?
bonus question: how much $$ and time does it take to put up a mile of barbed wire fence?
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:31 am to gorillacoco
You have a lot of land questions
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:32 am to KingRanch
i want to figure out what i'm doing before i drop a bunch of money on a piece of land that's not right.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:34 am to gorillacoco
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how much $$ and time does it take to put up a mile of barbed wire fence?
10 acres wouldn't be a mile. If a regular rectangle, it would be about .625 mile.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:37 am to gorillacoco
Someone with a dozer can push it all in piles. I think the going rate is about $350/day. 10 acres is going to be a few days... like a week or two.
Depends on the number of strands, spacing of fence post and if you plan on doing it yourself.
Clearing and fencing I think you are looking at no less than $10,000, and that's just a ball park guess based on 10 days of clearing and a 5 strand fence on 10 foot spacing for post that you are paying someone to do right.
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how much $$ and time does it take to put up a mile of barbed wire fence?
Depends on the number of strands, spacing of fence post and if you plan on doing it yourself.
Clearing and fencing I think you are looking at no less than $10,000, and that's just a ball park guess based on 10 days of clearing and a 5 strand fence on 10 foot spacing for post that you are paying someone to do right.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 9:40 am
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:38 am to TigerDeacon
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10 acres wouldn't be a mile. If a regular rectangle, it would be about .625 mile.
Maybe he wants to bisect it after he runs the property lines and have two or more small pens.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:39 am to Clyde Tipton
i was looking at 40 acre plots. ideally i'd like to clear about 10 acres for pasture and fence the entire 40 acres.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:42 am to Clyde Tipton
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Clearing and fencing I think you are looking at no less than $10,000, and that's just a ball park guess based on 10 days of clearing and a 5 strand fence on 10 foot spacing for post that you are paying someone to do right.
that's what i was looking for. ETA: although i would probably do the fencing myself.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 9:43 am
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:42 am to gorillacoco
If the wood is closer to 10 years old, it might be more efficient to shear, pile, & burn.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 9:43 am
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:44 am to Palo Gaucho
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shear, pile, & burn.
does this still involve renting a dozer?
btw, can you drive the dozer yourself or do you have to be certified/licensed?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:45 am to gorillacoco
After hurricane Andrew knocked two huge oaks down in a section of woods we had we converted it to pasture. Was only about 5 acres and took about a year. Did the majority of it with a about a 70hp tractor and chain saw. Had the bigger stumps ground up.
The quicker you want to do it, the more money you will spend imo
The quicker you want to do it, the more money you will spend imo
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:46 am to gorillacoco
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that's what i was looking for.
That's just in the ball park, could be a lot more if like Palo said you have some bigger trees.
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ETA: although i would probably do the fencing myself.
If you have a come along/winch, post driver, and post hole diggers for your corners, its not that hard. Watch some youtube videos for tips and tricks.
I learned from some mexicans... I suggest you do the same. i.e., look for youtube videos of mexicans doing it.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:48 am to gorillacoco
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gorillacoco
If you buy property in NWLA, I bet you could offer a pig roast and free beer in exchange for labor. I have that kind of pull, ya know.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:49 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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Was only about 5 acres and took about a year.
That's another good point. Kind of like the logging thread, the dozer will make it look like a bomb went off, but he'll knock it down and rough pile it. To actually clean it all up, grade the dirt, and get grass growing is a whole other process that will take a lot of time.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:49 am to gorillacoco
It would require a dozer and something with a shear head on it. You can drive the equipment yourself.
You don't sound like an experienced equipment operator (I'm not either). You would probably come out better in the long run (when you take into consideration your time, cost, and job quality) by hiring a professional to do it. IMO
You don't sound like an experienced equipment operator (I'm not either). You would probably come out better in the long run (when you take into consideration your time, cost, and job quality) by hiring a professional to do it. IMO
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:51 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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The quicker you want to do it, the more money you will spend imo
this would be a long term project. good, fast, cheap: you can only choose 2. and i choose good and cheap.
ETA: "cheap" in this case is pretty laughable. still, doing it fast is ridiculously expensive when you get to hiring work crews & big pieces of equipment. that's why i'd rather do most of the work myself over a long period of time.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 9:53 am
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:52 am to Palo Gaucho
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You would probably come out better in the long run (when you take into consideration your time, cost, and job quality) by hiring a professional to do it.
I think there is a guy on hear who goes by "Nascar" who has pretty extensive experience with an excavator, probably pretty handy with a dozer too...
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:52 am to gorillacoco
You typically have to have insurance for renting a dozer. Depending on the size dozer and skills of the operator, it could take 2-5 days. The operators normally go for $350-750/day, which is basically the same price as renting a smaller one yourself. They can rip the stumps up. Filling in the holes would take another 1-3 days
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 10:04 am
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:54 am to The Last Coco
could he help me dig a pond too?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:55 am to gorillacoco
Have you paid for a soil analysis yet?
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