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Even global warming enthusiasts are seeing the light

Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:39 am
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:39 am
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UN author says upcoming climate report 'alarmist,' pulls out of writing team

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"The drafts became too alarmist," Tol told Reuters

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Tol told Reuters the report plays down the possible economic benefits of low levels of warming, such as fewer deaths among the elderly in warmer winters and increased crop production in some regions.

"It is pretty damn obvious that there are positive impacts of climate change, even though we are not always allowed to talk about them," he said.

The whole thing was designed to be alarmists from the beginning. Scientists and the UN saw a cash cow.

You know its bad when the true believers say the movement has jumped the shark
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112359 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:44 am to
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even though we are not always allowed to talk about them," he said.


I posted here many years ago. Scientists who applied to make presentations at Montreal and Kyoto conferences who had studies that disproved global warming were barred from making their presentations.

That's why GW is NOT science. No peer review is allowed.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101181 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:47 am to
Man, some folks are going to be PISSED!
Posted by a want
I love everybody
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:10 am to
link?
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:14 am to
Link please
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:18 am to
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:25 am to
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:29 am to
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:31 am to
lol fox news
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259525 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:31 am to
Anytime you have nothing but negatives and ignoring the positives, there's an agenda.

Climate change is happening, but the overwhelming negative aspect of it is bullshite.
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4279 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:53 am to
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lol fox news


If you Google for it, the 2nd link is from the Reuters story. I'd link it but it'll be a mobile site.

There are quite a few benefits to a warmer world, namely a longer growing season. The world actually is a self regulating system courtesy of this. If you believe that CO2 production warms the planet, then the warmer, longer growth seasons spur more plant production, which in turn uses up more CO2, which then cools the planet.

This isn't how it actually works, since CO2 historically does not trigger warming. CO2 is a historical indicator of warming because as the sun heats the Earth, the ice caps melt releasing CO2 into the atmosphere (which is where the historical CO2 concentrations came from before cars and factories ).

TL:DR version If you actually believed in AGW then you should be promoting more plant life to help scrub the CO2.

We've participated in far too much habit destruction as is, so I'd love to see a push to rebuild forests but that will never happen since much of the current destruction takes place in 3rd world countries and there is no money to fleece there.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:54 am to
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Anytime you have nothing but negatives and ignoring the positives, there's an agenda.

Climate change is happening, but the overwhelming negative aspect of it is bullshite.
agree totally.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45786 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:56 am to
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Climate change is happening, but the overwhelming negative aspect of it is bullshite.


Yep, it is changing like it always has. Hell the scientist can't even decide if the temp is going up or down...
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
29962 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 7:50 am to
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Even ONE global warming enthusiast is seeing the light, but feeling really stupid for buying into it so he pulls out....even though the others saw the light but are too deep into creating Hockey Stick projections that aren't real, so they are going to continue to their "work" to see if they can get a Nobel or Pulitzer


I think I FIFY.........
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70646 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 8:40 am to
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Yep, it is changing like it always has. Hell the scientist can't even decide if the temp is going up or down..


My biggest problem with the warmists is that when actual data doesn't jibe with their predictions, they still insist their conclusions are correct instead of admitting their models are wrong.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:17 am to
They intentionally adjusted temps, rather than record the actual numbers, which was how its been done for 100 years. They also weighted urban monitors more value than rural stations

I seriously doubt theres been any significant increase since they began tracking AGW


Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:24 am to
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"The drafts became too alarmist," Tol told Reuters


I could tell you that injecting heroin will certainly kill you the instant you use it - that would be a bit alarmist though. Doesn't mean its a good idea to shoot up.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:36 am to
Doesnt justify outright lying tho, and specifically by morons that like to use "science" as if it were God.
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