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5th Circuit Upholds new Texas Abortion Law

Posted on 3/27/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 4:29 pm
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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A federal appeals court has upheld new abortion restrictions that shuttered many of the abortions clinics in Texas.

A panel of judges on the New Orleans-based U.S. 5th Circuit issued the ruling Thursday, overturning a lower court's decision that the rules violated the U.S. Constitution and served no medical purpose.

Texas lawmakers last year passed some of the toughest restrictions in the U.S. on when, where and how women may obtain an abortion. The Republican-controlled Legislature required abortion doctors to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital and placed strict limits on doctors prescribing abortion-inducing pills.

In its opinion, the appeals court said the law "on its face does not impose an undue burden on the life and health of a woman."


Paging ASURob

#waronwomenz
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 4:44 pm to
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ASURob


His posts are going to be painful to read in this thread.

Anyway, I'm not naive to the aspect that this is intended to restrict abortions as much as possible but safety is a legit concern as abortions are still a dangerous procedure so that's a good interest to have.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

His posts are going to be painful to read in this thread.

Anyway, I'm not naive to the aspect that this is intended to restrict abortions as much as possible but safety is a legit concern as abortions are still a dangerous procedure so that's a good interest to have.


Shrug, we both know it's an attempt to get around roe v wade.

Win some, lose some, fight is not done with this.

(And yes I am in favor of making abortion as safe as possible for women...but that is not what this law was about.)
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26614 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:48 pm to
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yes I am in favor of making abortion as safe as possible for women...but that is not what this law was about.


Please explain how you would want to make abortions safer for women without causing "an undue burden on the woman."
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64946 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:59 pm to
That's progress.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:11 pm to
This will give the Democrats ammunition to rile up women.

-"You see what happens when Republicans get to appoint federal judges?"

-"We can't afford to have any more Republican-appointed judges on the SCOTUS".


I can already picture the ads. This should help Hillary in 2016.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73414 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:12 pm to
You and your saviors are going to need it.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

I can already picture the ads. This should help Hillary in 2016.



Response: "Safe, legal and rare" (Pictures of Gosnell's facility) "The Democrats say that trying to stop this is 'anti-women.' Is that what you think? (more Gosnell pictures)"
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45721 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

This will give the Democrats ammunition to rile up women.

-"You see what happens when Republicans get to appoint federal judges?"

-"We can't afford to have any more Republican-appointed judges on the SCOTUS".

I can already picture the ads. This should help Hillary in 2016.

Actually, this is what's wrong with it. If fewer people played politics and pointed fingers, kept their noses out of other people's business and took care of themselves, we'd all be much better off.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:32 pm to
It amazes me that liberals not only condone but fully support the murder of babies. How they cannot see it as human life is beyond my level of comprehension, which is saying something.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

This will give the Democrats ammunition to rile up women.

quote:


I can already picture the ads. This should help Hillary in 2016.

At least you're admitting the Dems only hope is going after the emotions
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:48 pm to
At what point does one obtain "rights" that the government is charged with protecting???

Do these rights extend to the womb? if not why not?

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

Response: "Safe, legal and rare" (Pictures of Gosnell's facility) "The Democrats say that trying to stop this is 'anti-women.' Is that what you think? (more Gosnell pictures)"


Seriously, this is a "boom" level response. However, do the un-callus-hand white collar GOPers and their consultants have the balls to run such an ad?

I doubt it.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:52 pm to
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I'm not naive to the aspect that this is intended to restrict abortions as much as possible

Correct.
quote:

but safety is a legit concern as abortions are still a dangerous procedure

Well then legislation needs to start popping up re: many other "dangerous" procedures.



ETA: I'm still waiting on objective evidence that shows admitting privileges-->reduces adverse outcomes
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 7:53 pm
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

You and your saviors are going to need it.

You should know me well enough to know that Hillary is no savior of mine.
Posted by Diddles
LA
Member since Apr 2013
6981 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:53 pm to
This is great news!
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45721 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Well then legislation needs to start popping up re: many other "dangerous" procedures.

This is my question...are the same "safe guards" in place for all outpatient procedures?

quote:

I'm still waiting on objective evidence that shows admitting privileges-->reduces adverse outcomes

Have hospitals moved away from the hospitalist model? I'm pretty sure if someone is taken as an urgent/emergent patient from an outpatient facility, they would see the first ER doc available and not wait to check admitting privileges of the referring physician.

But I could be wrong.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

It amazes me that liberals not only condone but fully support the murder of babies. How they cannot see it as human life is beyond my level of comprehension, which is saying something.

Let's be honest, conservatives don't really see it as murder, otherwise, they'd be advocating the death sentence for both the mother and the doctor for committing first degree murder.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

At least you're admitting the Dems only hope is going after the emotions

As Al Davis would say, "Just win baby".
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

Do these rights extend to the womb?


If you are holding a baby in your arms you are responsible for that baby and you definitely can't kill it.

If you are holding a baby in your womb, responsibility for the baby is questionable and you have the right to kill it in most circumstances.

Why does the disposition of the baby matter?
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 8:00 pm
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